Juwel Lido 200 - really reef tank ready all in one? Really Really?

[sickman]

So I was out looking to get back in the hobby after 12 years, previously had 150 with all the fixens when things were all metal halide and chillers and what not.

The tank caught my eye was the Juwel Lido 200, guy at the store who is a long time tank dude, since the 80's swore up and down that this tank with a small built in space in the back for filtering and a pump, and included LED lights were enough to grow excellent LPS heavy tank as long as I didn't toss a bunch of Tangs in too and kept the fish bio load down. Said I could drop in a small skimmer that sticks magnetically to the glass and I'd be set as-is.

So am I going to end up needing to drill this thing to do anything?
Is the lighting really enough?
Filtration box in the back corner with in tank drop in skimmer enough?

Here's a link to the specs:

Juwel Lido 200 LED Aquarium and Cabinet Set

Shop Juwel Lido 200L Aquarium & Cabinet set in Sydney. Sleek design, multiple sizes & colours. Local delivery. A stylish, serene home feature.

www.kellyvillepets.com.au

The lighting is:

MultiLuxLED / Lighting​

Brilliant luminosity and excellent plant growth are what you get with the state-of-the-art Multilux LED lighting technology from JUWEL. The replaceable 590 mm DAY and NATURE LED tubes create an optimum light spectrum, while saving up to 50% of energy in comparison to T5 at the same time.

The MultiLux LED lighting system for the LIDO 200 LED means that you can work on your aquarium in comfort, even when the lighting is switched on.

Bioflow M / Filter System​

For optimum filtering, the LIDO 200 LED is fitted with a high-performance Bioflow M. This internal filter combines efficiency with safety and forms the centrepiece of any JUWEL aquarium. It works on the principle that "The water should stay in the aquarium!" and is the safest way of filtering an aquarium. The Bioflow M comes fitted with five high-performance filter media and a quiet yet powerful Eccoflow 600 circulation pump.

 

[griss]

Welcome back. I’ve never heard of that brand before and I’m still learning LED as I only just recently converted from MH. Looks interesting.

 

[kharmaguru]

Juwel was a high end tank in the 80's. My lfs carried them. Definitely well made with amazing silicone seals and polished edges compared to anything else at the time. That system is pretty geared to freshwater though. Have you looked at any marine focused brands to compare? Innovative Marine, Cade, Red Sea, etc.?

 

[griss]

Juwel was a high end tank in the 80's. My lfs carried them. Definitely well made with amazing silicone seals and polished edges compared to anything else at the time. That system is pretty geared to freshwater though. Have you looked at any marine focused brands to compare? Innovative Marine, Cade, Red Sea, etc.?

80s? Wow!!!! Never heard of them but, maybe they weren’t prevalent in the US back then.

 

[kharmaguru]

80s? Wow!!!! Never heard of them but, maybe they weren’t prevalent in the US back then.

They are definitely Euro market primarily, but before Big Al's was Big Al's, it was just called Aquarium Services and they carried All Glass for their standard tanks and Juwel for their high end.

 

[sickman]

Juwel was a high end tank in the 80's. My lfs carried them. Definitely well made with amazing silicone seals and polished edges compared to anything else at the time. That system is pretty geared to freshwater though. Have you looked at any marine focused brands to compare? Innovative Marine, Cade, Red Sea, etc.?

I haven't seen anything advertised as comparable to the price point for a starfire glass and includes stand and cover plus LEDs - $900 Quality wise they are pretty amazing from my research, and has warranty, German engineered baby!

Is there a cubish type tank like this that is all-one that more reef geared in that price range that isn't cheap garbage?

 

[griss]

They are definitely Euro market primarily, but before Big Al's was Big Al's, it was just called Aquarium Services and they carried All Glass for their standard tanks and Juwel for their high end.

Cool, hobby history I didn’t know about. Thanks, Sean

 

[griss]

I haven't seen anything advertised as comparable to the price point for a starfire glass and includes stand and cover plus LEDs - $900 Quality wise they are pretty amazing from my research, and has warranty, German engineered baby!

Is there a cubish type tank like this that is all-one that more reef geared in that price range that isn't cheap garbage?

Sounds good, I say go for it.

 

[wvned]

I don't see anything in the ad that would indicate it is reef ready. There is no indication of the wattage of the lights or the flow through the filter area.
It is 25 inches high so the light will need some punch.

It actually says it is suited to be a seawater aquarium.

 

[sickman]

I don't see anything in the ad that would indicate it is reef ready. There is no indication of the wattage of the lights or the flow through the filter area.
It is 25 inches high so the light will need some punch.

It actually says it is suited to be a seawater aquarium.

It says this for the lighting: 590mm MultiLux LED (Day/Nature tubes).

The capacity of the filter pump is designed for twice or 3 times the throughput per hour (e. g. Rio 180 = 180 litres at 600 l/h pump capacity).

 

[Reefing102]

@oreo57 could probably give a more detailed explanation on the spectrum but most reef lighting nowadays leans more into the bluer spectrum (450/470nm range) with controllability to add white/red/green as needed whereas the 590 is much more of a whiter spectrum. The key here I think is going to be controlability, if any. If it’s just an on/off LED, with no other controlability, without knowing more details, it “may” work but the nice bright/flourescent colors you see in many tanks will likely be missing in that tank.

 

[wvned]

Sale!

Juwel Multilux LED Tube – Marine 590mm​

Brilliant white light with 14000 Kelvin
Particularly well-suited to salt water aquariums
Promotes coral growth
Ideally combinable with LED BLUE

Length 590 mm
Power 14 Watt
Diameter 16 mm
Kelvin 14000
Lumen1860

LED MARINE 590 mm/14 Watt Fits theRio 125, Lido 200, Trigon 190

A 25 inch tank deep with a few 14 watt lights will not grow coral