Kasey's 60g
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markalot
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Sorry to hear about the troubles. LED's are tough to dial in, when they look bright to our eyes they are way way too bright for the corals. Once I figured this out I switched to T5's. The ATI fixtures with their quality reflectors and active cooling can put 200+ PAR down all the way to my sandbed. Pretty good considering I run with dirty glass lids. 
I've never used Halide but I know own one fixture and a 14K Phoenix bulb. Beautiful color IMO and I will soon be running it over my little 29 gallon tank.
I've never used Halide but I know own one fixture and a 14K Phoenix bulb. Beautiful color IMO and I will soon be running it over my little 29 gallon tank.
kaserpick
Keeping it Simple
Really bummed to hear things went south on you Kasey. Matt is right about the new lighting, things will turn around for the better in short time mate :thumbsup:
2015 will be a good year for your reef Kasey
Thanks Biggles, I certainly hope so! This ride has been up and down, lots of tough lessons. Thanks again for the encouragement.
Thank you, I'm glad you like it. Feel free to steal it all you want.
Sorry to hear about the troubles. LED's are tough to dial in, when they look bright to our eyes they are way way too bright for the corals. Once I figured this out I switched to T5's. The ATI fixtures with their quality reflectors and active cooling can put 200+ PAR down all the way to my sandbed. Pretty good considering I run with dirty glass lids.
I've never used Halide but I know own one fixture and a 14K Phoenix bulb. Beautiful color IMO and I will soon be running it over my little 29 gallon tank.
Yeah, the brightness to your eyes makes it super difficult. I also feel like there's a very small intensity sweet spot for LED's. I kept mine on the dim side and tried ramping super slowly, but in the end, I don't think the corals were receiving enough light. The clam was the signal to switch back to MH. It didn't show signs of being shocked by light. It just looked normal, until it decided it couldn't go any more, poor thing. The corals all browned out over time as well. Twice I've been tempted by the vixen, that is LED lighting. No more.
jackson6745
Yeah Yeah
You'll grow that 29g out in no time with the halide . Good to see you going at it despite your troubles.
. Good to see you going at it despite your troubles.
jackson6745
Yeah Yeah
I look up at my latest picture in this thread, and the colors make me sad. They're all brown now.
Nitrates up, po4 down and you'll have primo colors in weeks under the halide
Shh.. Don't tell anyone
kaserpick
Keeping it Simple
Thanks Richard. I need to comb back through your tank thread, but are you dropping PO4 through GFO? I ask cause most bacteria dosing I've done strips the nitrates down before the PO4, giving pale colors and poor health (at least they look unhealthy). Bacteria dosing is generally my go-to method, at least in the past. How do you keep PO4 down while keeping nitrates up, personally? My guess is feed heavy, skim hard.
I'm gonna read through your thread again.
I'm gonna read through your thread again.
jackson6745
Yeah Yeah
I haven't had to use GFO in months and my po4 stays around .00 - .03 according to the hanna low range colorimeter. Nitrates are currently 25ppm. I keep it this way with prodibio bioptim/biodigest, special blend, and 2 water changes per month. With a BB system if you're skimming heavily, you may find it difficult to get your nitrate up.
FWIW I don't see any problems using a SMALL amount of rows if your po4 gets up near to .1 or higher. I have never had a negative experience with GFO in this situation. I only ran into GFO problems when I didn't actually need it.
FWIW I don't see any problems using a SMALL amount of rows if your po4 gets up near to .1 or higher. I have never had a negative experience with GFO in this situation. I only ran into GFO problems when I didn't actually need it.
kaserpick
Keeping it Simple
Thanks for the info! I'm planning on starting Prodibio, as I've got 6 months worth of stuff just sitting. I do want to add sand. I think I'll just use Prodibio, water changes, and skimming hard. I'm hoping that the fish will to die enough food if I feed them multiple times in the day.
jackson6745
Yeah Yeah
Kasey, I wouldn't use the bioptim unless you have at least 5-10 nitrates. If they're near 0 you will strip the tank and your corals will suffer. I did this in the past, and so did a lot of my buddies
kaserpick
Keeping it Simple
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
The Good: Most things are alive. Nothing much, besides that.
The Bad: Chemistry
Nitrate: ~40-50 ppm
Phosphate: 1.15 ppm
(The rest are ok)
Ca: 480 (little bit high)
KH: 8.3 dKH
Mg: 1350
pH: 8.0
Salinity: 1.0255
The Ugly: Before LED's and After pics:
Before:
After:
I'm getting back up though. I'm hoping I can nurture these back to the point that they're colorful, growing, and thriving. Time will tell.
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
The Good: Most things are alive. Nothing much, besides that.
The Bad: Chemistry
Nitrate: ~40-50 ppm
Phosphate: 1.15 ppm
(The rest are ok)
Ca: 480 (little bit high)
KH: 8.3 dKH
Mg: 1350
pH: 8.0
Salinity: 1.0255
The Ugly: Before LED's and After pics:
Before:
After:
I'm getting back up though. I'm hoping I can nurture these back to the point that they're colorful, growing, and thriving. Time will tell.
reefmutt
Active member
You have nothing to worry about! You can bring this tank around in no time. You know what you are doing, you know what you have to do.
No better time than the present!
The minute you see one little thing start to look better, you will get hooked again. It's like a good book or a workout. You're not sure you want to get started but once you do, you're happy you did.
No better time than the present!
The minute you see one little thing start to look better, you will get hooked again. It's like a good book or a workout. You're not sure you want to get started but once you do, you're happy you did.
plyle02
Active member
Kasey,
Hang in there, maybe put some chaeto in the sump on a reverse light cycle, adjust skim to wet, and use a filter sock with daily changes, and maybe some larger than normal water changes. I personally have learned my lesson from over-reacting to these type of issues and busting out my wallet for a band aid cure. I am sure you will be on top of this in no time at all, keep up the fight, and don't panic on the test results, they are only tests... Best to you bro, hopefully you will bounce back in no time at all!!!
Regards,
Hang in there, maybe put some chaeto in the sump on a reverse light cycle, adjust skim to wet, and use a filter sock with daily changes, and maybe some larger than normal water changes. I personally have learned my lesson from over-reacting to these type of issues and busting out my wallet for a band aid cure. I am sure you will be on top of this in no time at all, keep up the fight, and don't panic on the test results, they are only tests... Best to you bro, hopefully you will bounce back in no time at all!!!
Regards,
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