Keep or Kill?

[FerSx]

Hi all
Just made a huge 50% water change in my new tank and manage to catch this little’s fellows so what to do keep them or..?
I saw this little Crab long time ago, don’t know if he’s reef safe or not, but hi is always between the sand and the rocks, and look like he’s helping move the bed sand around an eating anything he find on it.
So should I leave it or it’s a bad crab

Small 1 ½” mantis shrimp, now if isn’t reef safe can I leave it in my refuge with the algae?

Transparent Pistols shrimps (they are 3 of them)

Black pistol shrimp

Strange bugs

Any help would be great, and if any can ID then even better.

Tnx in advance

 

[JBuffetReefer]

I've heard mantis shrimp are not safe in a tank. May eat other fish. Fuge may be safe for him as long as he can't get into display tank.

Not sure about rest.

 

[FBNitro]

Those bugs are bad... Parasites called Cirolanid Isopod, they're like ticks. Attach to fish and kill them off. They'll even go after your hands if you've got them in the tank. You'll have to trap as much as you can with traps/food lures etc, do a web search for trapping methods. After that you're going to have to have a long quarantine to make sure they are gone.

Mantis are reef safe, in a sense. They're not fish/snail safe. You can toss him in your sump, if you have the room they are pretty neat, I'd love to have a species tank with one, but I don't have the room. Remember to keep your hands FAR away from him.

I don't know much about pistols or that crab.

 

[jamest0o0]

first pic is a crab that most people don't want because they can kill fish/snails/hermits/corals anything basically, all crabs are oppurtunistic. Even though they are bad I don't like killing things so I'd stick him in the sump where he would do fine.

Mantis shrimp will not harm corals, but will kill basically anything else. They can even hurt you so try not to touch them with your bear hands. This said mantis shrimp are very interesting critters and a lot of people keep them in species tanks. So IMO keep him or give him to someone that would like to keep a mantis.

Some pistols are bad, some are good I don't know too much about them to be honest....

Last pictures look like isopods, a good deal of them can be bad, I would personally remove them unless I new for sure they were safe. (Could also just be pods, I can't really tell from pics)

 

[jamest0o0]

also I havn't heard too many horror stories about pistol shrimp.

 

[Playa-1]

Your live rock hitchhikers look like a nightmare that I have sometimes...

 

[jamest0o0]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12596897#post12596897 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Playa-1

Your live rock hitchhikers look like a nightmare that I have sometimes...

haha very true, they are enough to murder your hand and the rest of your tank =O

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

I would not place the crab, mantis or isopod in a community reef display.

 

[jamest0o0]

I would put a mantis in one if I had no fish/shrimp in it

 

[fattyratrat]

jesus, where did you get your live rock?!?! My 100lbs came with one little crab guy and an asternia star.

 

[jamest0o0]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12596970#post12596970 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fattyratrat
jesus, where did you get your live rock?!?! My 100lbs came with one little crab guy and an asternia star.

hell?

 

[FerSx]

Jejeje tnx for the fast replies guys
Well just flushed away the bugs FBNitro reply scare the hell out of me
The rest its fine at my sump until I can figure out what to do with them.

Hmm hell yes maybe jajaja and this it’s just the half I have found in my 20lbs of rock they were actually 3 of these crabs but the others 2 appear dead and there is a red crab that don’t wana get out of a small rock even after giving it a 30min freshwater dip.
And did have a beautiful electric blue 1” pistol shrimp that didn’t make it, I was even thinking of building a small 2 o 5 gal nano just for him and maybe the mantis.
that’s the bad thing of been here at Venezuela we don’t have any Fuji rock or anything else, just all Caribbean rock fresh picked up by the LFS owner who is a diver that owns a boat and go every weekend to the beach
The scariest part it’s that sill need at least 50lbs more of rock to fill my tank.

 

[niccas9]

Man, that is a lot of hitchers

 

[petoonia]

I would try and get about 20 or 30 pounds of dry base rock just to avoid all of those hitchikers.

 

[tmz]

All of those including the pistols can be a big headache in a reef. If you put them in your refugium ,you won't have many other live things(pods,etc)in there for very long.

 

[FBNitro]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12597111#post12597111 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FerSx
JWell just flushed away the bugs FBNitro reply scare the hell out of me

You're welcome. If you haven't, really you should read up on those bugs.

http://www.reefs.org/library/article/clarke_shimek.html

Talks about them and how larger ones can kill sharks in the wild, how it bit one of the students in the class. Recommends 2-3 months no fish to ensure they starve off, along with some more extreme methods.

For your additional rock, get base rock instead. You've got a long wait anyway, by the time the 2-3 months are over the base rock will be well seeded.

 

[StunnaShadez]

i would love to have pistol hitchhikers... its just me, i love pistol shrimps. would not want to have a mantis shrimp tho, but i did have a bad crab that is now in my refugium.

 

[wiscsaltwater]

put all of that in the fuge, minus the bugs, your mantis will eat well.

 

[DevilBoy]

the first picture of the crab is a stone crab... dont put him in your main tank... you could put him in your sump and shouldnt have any problems with him.


3rd picture most definitely is a mantis, will eat shrimp, snails, small fish etc... not a good reef tank member

4th picture a pistol shrimp should be fine in a reef tank.


your bug pictures are cirolandid isopods very bad... if you seen one i am sure there are hundreds of other ones....

 

[dc]

Give the mantis his own 5-10 gallon tank. They are killers, but awsome to watch. We have a mantis forum also. I've had 2 and would have another if I ran across one.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=37

Pistols are borderline safe, some people have troubles and others don't. I have a nice tiger in one tank and a killer red one in my main tank. I'd probably still keep it tho.