Kessil AP 700 Owners Gather Here!

mfaso24 said:
That is some serious lighting power!
If I had 3 I probably would have tried front to back in between each section without the t5's and seen how the coverage was.


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I have no doubt front to back solo is fine. I have seen it myself.
I am going mostly sps and lps. I want max coverage with the ati's and
Metal halide like qualities with controllable spectrums and shimmer!

16 years of metal halide's. It was time to take the plunge and try newer tech.
 
I wanted to share my program in hope that we can combine resources and experience to enhance the use of this great light. Kessil is pushing the edge of this technology and with anything at the edge there is a risk of a fall if you are not careful. However we can assist each other and give new comers a head start. We will lay the path for others to follow or learn what not to do, lol.


My lights have been installed for 3 months, started at only 40% intensity. I plan to increase intensity to 90% at some point. However right now the corals are doing great! Polyp extension, growth, and color are well.

Personally I like the color, coverage, spectrum, and spread with these far better than the 360s I had before.




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Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
 
michaelrc51 said:
Anybody hear any news on Apex compatibility, or is it still?in the works"?
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The AP700 will not be APEX compatible. I am curious though, why would that be important? The app may not be perfected yet, however it still gives you the functionality that the APEX could give you. It's built in WIFI allows direct connection or through your router via your mobile device.


Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
 
bif24701 said:
The AP700 will not be APEX compatible. I am curious though, why would that be important? The app may not be perfected yet, however it still gives you the functionality that the APEX could give you. It's built in WIFI allows direct connection or through your router via your mobile device.


Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
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It's the whole thing about having a lot of money into a controls system. I just want one platform to control it all. I don't want to have multiple things going on.

Do you have any proof that it won't be compatible?

Kessil has said it would be but it wouldn't happen upon release and the last I had heard there stance was the same. While waiting a bit is fine, I will sell the 2 I have if they don't hold up to their promise.


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michaelrc51 said:
It's the whole thing about having a lot of money into a controls system. I just want one platform to control it all. I don't want to have multiple things going on.

Do you have any proof that it won't be compatible?

Kessil has said it would be but it wouldn't happen upon release and the last I had heard there stance was the same. While waiting a bit is fine, I will sell the 2 I have if they don't hold up to their promise.


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So honestly, how often would you need Apex to 'control' the lighting? Lights are usually a set n forget item. You can have power bricks on the EB8 if you want the temp cutoff. Only thing I can think of is seasonal sunrise/sunset/moon phase. I'm not sure if the app already have that.

Other than that, it's not like there is another control box that you have to physically install somewhere (which if the AP700 is to be Apex compatible, it may be something you have to buy and install).


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michaelrc51 said:
It's the whole thing about having a lot of money into a controls system. I just want one platform to control it all. I don't want to have multiple things going on.

Do you have any proof that it won't be compatible?

Kessil has said it would be but it wouldn't happen upon release and the last I had heard there stance was the same. While waiting a bit is fine, I will sell the 2 I have if they don't hold up to their promise.


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No, you are right. They do plan to have some link with the apex


Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
 
bif24701 said:
No, you are right. They do plan to have some link with the apex


Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
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It's one of the things I made sure of before I bought mine.
Might sound weird to some but I like to sweat the details and have all the functions and such be controlled by one system.
Oh BTW, I work for a huge controls company[emoji4]


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I have a question for you AP700 owners. The specs say the fixture is 20" long, I want to know how far the "pucks" are from one another. To be exact, how many inches in from the ends of the fixture do they start and how many inches apart are they from each other? Thanks in advance.
 
tmc1313 said:
I have a question for you AP700 owners. The specs say the fixture is 20" long, I want to know how far the "pucks" are from one another. To be exact, how many inches in from the ends of the fixture do they start and how many inches apart are they from each other? Thanks in advance.
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Roughly 12" apart


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Mike de Leon said:
Hows front to back coverage? Will I need two on a 30 deep?
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The front to back coverage with the two lights next to each other how I have them is OK. But is dimmer than if I had the fixtures mounted perpendicular (front to back). The fixture is suspended about 13" off the tank. If you're trying to cover a tank with 30" depth (front to back), then you'll have to hang the lights front to back for the best coverage.
 
Has anyone had trouble setting up their AP 700 to connect through wifi so you don't have to join the fixture's wifi every time you want to configure it?
 
Yup. Still can't do it. Kessil wants me to call them so they can walk me through it. I'm pretty proficient in setting up networks and I'm sure I following their instructions to the letter so I don't know what else they can do. The rep was talking about possibly channel conflicts and using a special software they have to change the channels on the lights themselves. I don't see that being the problem so I've been hesitant to take time off and spend an hr or so on the phone with them.


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Here's another concern...When you set the color channels to any percentage, the output of the light is capped at 70%. Kessil said they did this as a failsafe because the light gets too hot and they're trying to develop a fix for it. The light does indeed get really hot when ran above 70%, but I'm not sure how they're going to fix the heating issue, seems like more of a design thing more than anything.
 
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Here's another concern...When you set the color channels to any percentage, the output of the light is capped at 70%. Kessil said they did this as a failsafe because the light gets too hot and they're trying to develop a fix for it. The light does indeed get really hot when ran above 70%, but I'm not sure how they're going to fix the heating issue, seems like more of a design thing more than anything.
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Oh thats pants. I've just put on the optical diffusers so definitely need to run at above 70%. If it's capped at 70% then I've just wasted my money:furious::furious::furious:
 
Just to be clear, you're talking about its only capped at 70% if you're using the red/green color sliders right?


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mfaso24 said:
Just to be clear, you're talking about its only capped at 70% if you're using the red/green color sliders right?

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Mmm, it doesn't state its only the red/green slider intensities. Sounded more like the total output intensities. I've e-mailed Kessil for clarification.
 
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