Kessil AP 700 Owners Gather Here!

So im still undecided on what light system i want to go with. I originally wanted an ap 700 but after a lot of reading i heard a lot of people switched back to t5 from leds. My tank is a 110 gallon 48x30x18 . Will the ap700 reach down to 30 inches and still span the 48 inches? Or will i be better off with a t5 fixture ? I know a mixture of both would be awesome but for now i have to choose one. Anyways what you guys who own an ap700 think? Thanks
 
Mohawk man said:
So im still undecided on what light system i want to go with. I originally wanted an ap 700 but after a lot of reading i heard a lot of people switched back to t5 from leds. My tank is a 110 gallon 48x30x18 . Will the ap700 reach down to 30 inches and still span the 48 inches? Or will i be better off with a t5 fixture ? I know a mixture of both would be awesome but for now i have to choose one. Anyways what you guys who own an ap700 think? Thanks
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I wouldn't recommend a single unit to cover an 48", 30" deep area.


Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
 
michaelrc51 said:
It's one of the things I made sure of before I bought mine.
Might sound weird to some but I like to sweat the details and have all the functions and such be controlled by one system.
Oh BTW, I work for a huge controls company[emoji4]


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This is something I've dreamed of since I bought an apex 4 years ago, then once it that time something went wrong and I'm glad I didn't depend on it to do everything for my tank - especially if you have to send it in for repair.

I rarely connect to it anymore now that my system is stable.

It might be important for you, but I wouldn't spend another 50 to 60 bucks on another control box to duplicate functionality I already have. Or even worse having to run a usb cable out the side of the light.




My tank - a Red Sea Reefer 350 - Build Thread - http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2555495
 
Just an update from me. I've been back without the optics now for a little over a week. power at 60% peak. Had to move my torch down near the bottom, but other than that corals are happy and growing. The reason I removed the optics was because I was already running the light at 90% because the optics do block PAR like crazy. My Duncan was closed up.. As soon as I removed the optics, my Duncan perked up and is now happy again. I didn't want to move the Duncan, or up the power any more.
 
sixpackgarage said:
Just an update from me. I've been back without the optics now for a little over a week. power at 60% peak. Had to move my torch down near the bottom, but other than that corals are happy and growing. The reason I removed the optics was because I was already running the light at 90% because the optics do block PAR like crazy. My Duncan was closed up.. As soon as I removed the optics, my Duncan perked up and is now happy again. I didn't want to move the Duncan, or up the power any more.
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Major or minor diffusion?
 
Ive been running kessil 2 ap700s since launch day , lights have been growing sps very well. Just lately stated playing with green and red ..I've been super happy with purchase !


 
CIRCLE10 said:
Ive been running kessil 2 ap700s since launch day , lights have been growing sps very well. Just lately stated playing with green and red ..I've been super happy with purchase !





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Awesome tank! What are the dimensions by the way. And I'm curious if you notice any difference with the red and greens


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Sigh. Just setup my first AP700 tonight (I have 5 units), using the Android App which is still in BETA. I know this has been said adnauseum, but wow, this App is just crap. I intentionally left my units sitting idle trying to wait for the bugs to be worked out, but after doing a tank move I needed to setup one of the AP700 units in place of some DIY LEDs that were removed during the move.

Firstly I decided to lower the starting Acclimation point to 10% from 20%. Hmm, the light does not turn on. WTEf?!! Then I discover that 10% is essentially off, I guess the AP700 cannot dim that low?? So why does the App offer it then as an option?

Then the one AP700 that was setup on the App just vanished. No amount of scanning could bring it back and multiple rounds of attempting to connect the AP700 back up to WiFi were required. What seemed to work in the end was cold booting the AP700, and starting the setup again.

After spending $6000 on lights I have to say that overall the AP700 has been a huge disappointment ... and that is not even based on whether they grow coral well. That remains to be seen.

Dennis
 
Tank is a 150gal 60x24x24 , too soon to tell as far as red/green % just started tweaking last weekend . On a side note noticing my purple sps had began to fade (too much blue?)after 5 days , noticing purple rims and tips starting to pop again . Running 24% red 24% green @60% intensity then ramp to 28% red 17% green at end of day (trying to simulate coral lab sps ab+ and phx14 )
 
CIRCLE10 said:
Tank is a 150gal 60x24x24 , too soon to tell as far as red/green % just started tweaking last weekend . On a side note noticing my purple sps had began to fade (too much blue?)after 5 days , noticing purple rims and tips starting to pop again . Running 24% red 24% green @60% intensity then ramp to 28% red 17% green at end of day (trying to simulate coral lab sps ab+ and phx14 )
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Please note that the Reds/greens addition does nothing for coral health, color, or growth. It's purely for the users benefit to accent colors for viewing.


Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
 
dartier said:
Sigh. Just setup my first AP700 tonight (I have 5 units), using the Android App which is still in BETA. I know this has been said adnauseum, but wow, this App is just crap. I intentionally left my units sitting idle trying to wait for the bugs to be worked out, but after doing a tank move I needed to setup one of the AP700 units in place of some DIY LEDs that were removed during the move.

Firstly I decided to lower the starting Acclimation point to 10% from 20%. Hmm, the light does not turn on. WTEf?!! Then I discover that 10% is essentially off, I guess the AP700 cannot dim that low?? So why does the App offer it then as an option?

Then the one AP700 that was setup on the App just vanished. No amount of scanning could bring it back and multiple rounds of attempting to connect the AP700 back up to WiFi were required. What seemed to work in the end was cold booting the AP700, and starting the setup again.

After spending $6000 on lights I have to say that overall the AP700 has been a huge disappointment ... and that is not even based on whether they grow coral well. That remains to be seen.

Dennis
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I would not use the acclimation mode, I would start low and up the intensity 1-5% weekly based on PAR readings or coral reaction. The acclimation mode is far to fast for me. It need to be taken very slowly, I'm not at 80% after 3 months and due to the enormous power of these fixtures I don't think I would need to go any higher.

The app is lacking however you need to understand that with that many units and other wireless devices in use around the same area causes interference. In the end these are still digital devices that are susceptible to the same issues as any other wireless communication device. If one until drops off just reset the unit and connect it again. I've had this happen once and hasn't been a problem since. You won't lose any programming or settings for the group. I hope they work well for you in the future.


Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
 
oseymour said:
This is something I've dreamed of since I bought an apex 4 years ago, then once it that time something went wrong and I'm glad I didn't depend on it to do everything for my tank - especially if you have to send it in for repair.

I rarely connect to it anymore now that my system is stable.

It might be important for you, but I wouldn't spend another 50 to 60 bucks on another control box to duplicate functionality I already have. Or even worse having to run a usb cable out the side of the light.




My tank - a Red Sea Reefer 350 - Build Thread - http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2555495
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Exactly, for instance my Vortech MP60 easily could be controller via APEX with another adapter but why the hell would I? The controller gets the job done, maybe better. I do have it plugged into the EB8 so that its shut off for 10 min feed mode, that's it.


Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
 
dartier said:
Sigh. Just setup my first AP700 tonight (I have 5 units), using the Android App which is still in BETA. I know this has been said adnauseum, but wow, this App is just crap. I intentionally left my units sitting idle trying to wait for the bugs to be worked out, but after doing a tank move I needed to setup one of the AP700 units in place of some DIY LEDs that were removed during the move.

Firstly I decided to lower the starting Acclimation point to 10% from 20%. Hmm, the light does not turn on. WTEf?!! Then I discover that 10% is essentially off, I guess the AP700 cannot dim that low?? So why does the App offer it then as an option?

Then the one AP700 that was setup on the App just vanished. No amount of scanning could bring it back and multiple rounds of attempting to connect the AP700 back up to WiFi were required. What seemed to work in the end was cold booting the AP700, and starting the setup again.

After spending $6000 on lights I have to say that overall the AP700 has been a huge disappointment ... and that is not even based on whether they grow coral well. That remains to be seen.

Dennis
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AP700 has the same issue as the A360s. Once you lower the light under 13% it turns off // all black. I had the same issue when I use to set up my A360s through Apex, and I have the same issue with the AP700 now.
 
I have the major diffusion on for about a week now. It really does cut PAR alot. Had to increase intensity from 65% to 85%. Less shimmers, coverage seem the same to my eyes.
 
rees2301 said:
Did we get to see Circle10's settings and mounting config on his great set up.
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Sorry been gone on vacation with family recently(came back to some brown sps/cyano/corraline take over,etc:uhoh3:. But no deaths !!!! ), lights were hung 7" above water and set to ramp up to 75% (gradually )
I've been messing around with these settings recently,
But don't want to misslead anyone :xlbirthday:I've been hybrid for the last 3months and loving it :thumbsup:
 
CIRCLE10 said:
Sorry been gone on vacation with family recently(came back to some brown sps/cyano/corraline take over,etc:uhoh3:. But no deaths !!!! ), lights were hung 7" above water and set to ramp up to 75% (gradually )

I've been messing around with these settings recently,

But don't want to misslead anyone :xlbirthday:I've been hybrid for the last 3months and loving it :thumbsup:
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I do plan to add 4 T5 bulbs but later once corals start crowding and shadowing each other.


Aaron

180 Gallon Dream (Now Reality)
http://www.panhandlereefers.com/forums/index.php?/topic/14405-180-Gallon-Dream-(Now-Reality)
 
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