Kessil Club

Hello All. After several different options, I am finally crossing to the dark side and have added TWO A360WE Kessil pendants. I have a 210 gallon tank (6' x 2' x 30".)
I currently have two Fluval 2.0s with controller spanning the 72 inch tank and am wondering the best way to "acclimate".
I only have a few corals. Hammer, Frogspawn, a couple mushrooms, blue blasto, basic green leathers and a pink Goniopora.
BUT my question is....I ordered a bunch of stuff from Aquarium Depot.
THESE new additions will be my main concern. What level intensity/color should I focus on when these arrive early next week. A lot of Zoas, a couple chalices and one SPS as a test.
 
Also, one other thing. Since it is a center brace tank, how can I set these up to look uniform?

If there was no center brace, I could do one at 12", another at 36: and another at 60".

Thoughts?
 
For a standard 180 72 x 24 x 24 will 3 360we be enough to one have good coverage for the whole tank and two allow me to keep sps and lps pretty much anywhere?
 
danferd2002 said:
For a standard 180 72 x 24 x 24 will 3 360we be enough to one have good coverage for the whole tank and two allow me to keep sps and lps pretty much anywhere?
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Not even close. You would need atleast 5. I had 4 on a 60" and I probably could of used another. 2 AP700s would be better especially for the bottom.
 
danferd2002 said:
For a standard 180 72 x 24 x 24 will 3 360we be enough to one have good coverage for the whole tank and two allow me to keep sps and lps pretty much anywhere?
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+1 for what Thor said. My tank is 72"LX30"Wx20"T and I use 3x250 radiums, 280w T5s, 2 kessil 360we, 2 kessil 160we. I use the kessil's as a fill in in between the halide reflectors (160's on the outside and the 360 in the middle)...and I can say for certain that the kessil's do not have close to the spread of my MH reflectors.

For your tank you would need 6 I would estimate, and depending on how your rock work is laid out and how you mount your corals if that would be enough. But I highly recommend doing a DIY kessil/T5 combo setup. Lessens how many you will need and fills in the shadows nicely.
 
Thor2j said:
Not even close. You would need atleast 5. I had 4 on a 60" and I probably could of used another. 2 AP700s would be better especially for the bottom.
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I have two 360's on my 24X24X24 cube and I am getting PAR in the high 300's and I am SPS dominant. I would think 5 + would be good...

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I'm using the quantum with the 500 head on it. And I said the high 300's..I get about 390 at about 8 inches below the surface. About 180 at 18 inches below the surface. Right at the surface directly under each light fixture is something crazy off the chart. But that's a very small spot. With the two fixtures I'm at a hundred and eighty watch. My old DIY fixture was also 180 watts. And I was getting roughly the same readings
 
MHG said:
I'm using the quantum with the 500 head on it. And I said the high 300's..I get about 390 at about 8 inches below the surface. About 180 at 18 inches below the surface. Right at the surface directly under each light fixture is something crazy off the chart. But that's a very small spot. With the two fixtures I'm at a hundred and eighty watch. My old DIY fixture was also 180 watts. And I was getting roughly the same readings
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What percentage are you running them, must be near 100. The 360s loose way more then the 700s as the depth increases. Has to do with the reflectors on the 700s.

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Hey all! Ordering two 360s to put over my 90G with two T5s as supplements. Two main questions:
Do I need to get a controller with them? I eventually want to get an apex and am not sure if I want to wait and hook the kessils up to that, or buy a spectral controller.
Also, what type of bulbs are good to supplement with? What colour temperature should I target?


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Squibege said:
Do I need to get a controller with them? I eventually want to get an apex and am not sure if I want to wait and hook the kessils up to that, or buy a spectral controller.
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You can hook the A80/A160/A360 to the Apex using the variable output ports. You can make your own cable, or buy one for about $20. Then daisy chain using stereo 1/8 in cable betwen multiple lights.
 
Squibege said:
Hey all! Ordering two 360s to put over my 90G with two T5s as supplements. Two main questions:
Do I need to get a controller with them? I eventually want to get an apex and am not sure if I want to wait and hook the kessils up to that, or buy a spectral controller.
Also, what type of bulbs are good to supplement with? What colour temperature should I target?


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I use a bluefish controller for my 3. Love it!
 
Squibege said:
Hey all! Ordering two 360s to put over my 90G with two T5s as supplements. Two main questions:
Do I need to get a controller with them? I eventually want to get an apex and am not sure if I want to wait and hook the kessils up to that, or buy a spectral controller.
Also, what type of bulbs are good to supplement with? What colour temperature should I target?


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You dont need that controller but unless you want to manually turn them on and off every day, you need something. A timer on the plug if you want to be caveman about it. If you have a reef controller you can wire it to that.
 
Squibege said:
Hey all! Ordering two 360s to put over my 90G with two T5s as supplements. Two main questions:
Do I need to get a controller with them? I eventually want to get an apex and am not sure if I want to wait and hook the kessils up to that, or buy a spectral controller.
Also, what type of bulbs are good to supplement with? What colour temperature should I target?


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I had mine controlled from my apex, but bought the spectral controller. To me, having the variable speed ports controlling my Tunze's was far more important than controlling the lights. Especially when all that I'm doing is ramping up, holding peak, then ramping down.
 
Random observation.

My LFS uses 360s over his stock tanks (Quite deep) and I've always found them to be very dim looking? Nice shimmer, colours look good, but definitely much dimmer than my Chinese LED. Are they pumping out PAR in a deceiving way, or are they in fact not overly powerful?
 
Bronx19 said:
Are they pumping out PAR in a deceiving way, or are they in fact not overly powerful?
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Never trust your eyes for PAR/PUR values when it comes to Kessils. They are quite powerful. Most new users of Kessils actually have to start on a lower brightness (say 50% - 60%) and then gradually ramp up as the corals get used to the intensity of the lamps.
 
Bronx19 said:
Random observation.

My LFS uses 360s over his stock tanks (Quite deep) and I've always found them to be very dim looking? Nice shimmer, colours look good, but definitely much dimmer than my Chinese LED. Are they pumping out PAR in a deceiving way, or are they in fact not overly powerful?
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At 90 watts that are not very powerful, but how they look really depends on how high and how far apart. My lbs uses them and I always thought they look quite bright. But if they keep them on the blue side they look quite dim.
 
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