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Hah thanks for the encouragement, you're an enabler! What do you reckon, the A360WE in the center and an A80 towards each corner?
Darryl Hey
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75 gallon ?
75 gallon ?
starting a 75 gallon reef mixed coral very few sps
which light should i go with kessil 2 360we or 1 ap700
has center brace which is my main concern
thanks in advance
75 gallon ?
starting a 75 gallon reef mixed coral very few sps
which light should i go with kessil 2 360we or 1 ap700
has center brace which is my main concern
thanks in advance
shred5
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Darryl Hey
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thanks dave
bif24701
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The center brace wouldn't be any trouble for the AP700. It would not block any light.
Aaron
sayitfast
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I'm having a brick veneer wall put in my office this week... trying to achieve a very similar look. Love it. :thumbsup:
I have 4 kessil a360ww over a new build
Heres the light bar we made for the fixtures. Awesome lights
I currently have an ap700 on 75 rimless. Mostly sps with a few zoas and lps mixed in. My thoughts are this. While lps do well off the sides and look very healthy, the growth is definitely slower than lps more in the center 2/3's of the tank. Sps grows no problem for the part. Some pieces do great and some struggle, but I don't attribute that to the light. While I love the light, I definitely need 2 to have a truley great sps dominant tank where I can put sps anywhere in the tank. If I could do it again, I'm not sure if I would have gone ap700 or 2 360s. I didn't even debate 360s at the time to be honest. But if you're concerned about growth on the outer edges of the tank it may be worth it to go with the 360s.
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jdantunes
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So if you were to do it again what will you use? And why?
It's a tough call honestly. But maybe 2 360s because I feel it would cover 4 feet better than 1 ap700 while still being able to grow sps.
The thing with the ap700 is that it definitely has more punch and better spread which means less shadowing.
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bif24701
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I guess, never seen it used on 48" lengths so I wouldn't know. For 36" lengths I'm here to say there is not an LED to beat it right now that I know of. Maybe some commercial or specialized fixtures sure. But I'll take the Pepsi challenge with a G4 any day of the week. I don't think it has the spread, PAR, spectrum the 700 has.
Aaron
Absolutely. I can cover a 36" tank no problem. And probably put sps anywhere. Don't get me wrong it definitely covers a 48" tank. But where you can place sps becomes a bit more tricky. Softies and lps will be happy pretty much anywhere (assuming parameters and flow are correct for the species)
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a little help setting up
a little help setting up
I have 2 kessil a360w running on my tank. I run them from 8am to 8pm with 6 different stages of color and intensity. Stage 1, color 10%, intensity 20%, stage 2, 20% color, 40 intensity, stage 3 50/50, stage 4 40/40, stage 5 20/20 and 0/0 in the final stage until morning. I currently have a torch coral in the middle of the tank, and I mean the almost the exact middle of the tank and seams to be doing well. I just got a galaxea that is in the middle but in the sand bed. I also have a carpet anemone that has not moved in the 2 months I've had it and a green star polyp that's on a rock by itself that seems to be starting to grow. Is this enough light? I run each stage for 2 hours. Should I run the color more or less? I think the intensity is enough. Its a standard 55gal tank about about 24" high. The lights are about 5 inches from the water level. I have a ecotech mp10 set to the reef crest mode. The torch seems to like the flow. I have a small power head opposite to the mp10 going constant slightly pointed to the surface. Was thinking of getting a mp40 to replace it with the idea of upgrading in the future. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
a little help setting up
I have 2 kessil a360w running on my tank. I run them from 8am to 8pm with 6 different stages of color and intensity. Stage 1, color 10%, intensity 20%, stage 2, 20% color, 40 intensity, stage 3 50/50, stage 4 40/40, stage 5 20/20 and 0/0 in the final stage until morning. I currently have a torch coral in the middle of the tank, and I mean the almost the exact middle of the tank and seams to be doing well. I just got a galaxea that is in the middle but in the sand bed. I also have a carpet anemone that has not moved in the 2 months I've had it and a green star polyp that's on a rock by itself that seems to be starting to grow. Is this enough light? I run each stage for 2 hours. Should I run the color more or less? I think the intensity is enough. Its a standard 55gal tank about about 24" high. The lights are about 5 inches from the water level. I have a ecotech mp10 set to the reef crest mode. The torch seems to like the flow. I have a small power head opposite to the mp10 going constant slightly pointed to the surface. Was thinking of getting a mp40 to replace it with the idea of upgrading in the future. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Wally.B
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I've been trying to figure out my A360W for about a year (fine tuning many ways).
What I did learn from reading, and kind of believe from experience... is that Kessil's Light mixing algorithm takes care of each LED Intensity (regardless of the Spectrum you choose).
Basically, what I mean is the Spectrum (0%[blue] to 100%[white]) doesn't really matter. It your own choice and have fun with your color choices (to suit the theme changes you want).
However the Intensity you choose, has to be done very carefully. Both with Level (0-100%), and How long your run (photoperiod) at higher intensities.
From my experience (anything below 40% is safe) for any coral (even placed close to the top). But anything above 40% should be done slowly. This will vary on the type of coral. (one example: I had a heck of a time getting Zoa's to stay alive, but I eventually succeeded by really slowly (weeks) acclimatizing them. Even now, I can't seem to get past 60% with Zoa's, but maybe it just needs more time... [Plus.. I do have 4 Complimentary T5's in the Tank Canopy]).
I did document my Kessil setting and playing with coral acclimatizaing here http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2530342&page=3 (might help you a bit).
The complete Canopy Lighting setup is here http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2510779
Good luck figuring your Kessil and corals out. I love the Kessil, especially 0%blue, my sundown (Coral Glow/Pop) setting. Be patient and do things slowly.
There is no magic Kessil setting that works for everyone's TANK/Corals. The only magic setting that works, is setting your Intensity to 100% and running it long right away. (Guaranteed to burn most of your corals to death, if they never were exposed to such intensity recently).
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I have 2 kessil a360w running on my tank. I run them from 8am to 8pm with 6 different stages of color and intensity. Stage 1, color 10%, intensity 20%, stage 2, 20% color, 40 intensity, stage 3 50/50, stage 4 40/40, stage 5 20/20 and 0/0 in the final stage until morning. I currently have a torch coral in the middle of the tank, and I mean the almost the exact middle of the tank and seams to be doing well. I just got a galaxea that is in the middle but in the sand bed. I also have a carpet anemone that has not moved in the 2 months I've had it and a green star polyp that's on a rock by itself that seems to be starting to grow. Is this enough light? I run each stage for 2 hours. Should I run the color more or less? I think the intensity is enough. Its a standard 55gal tank about about 24" high. The lights are about 5 inches from the water level. I have a ecotech mp10 set to the reef crest mode. The torch seems to like the flow. I have a small power head opposite to the mp10 going constant slightly pointed to the surface. Was thinking of getting a mp40 to replace it with the idea of upgrading in the future. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
cubbyman60
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Read through a lot of this thread...
Has there been any conclusion to what really fries the corals during acclimation: is it the color or the intensity. Meaning, which is more "harmful" to shock the corals with.
For example, would introducing new lights at 100% intensity with 10% blue be worse then 100% blue at 10% intensity.
Thank you.
Has there been any conclusion to what really fries the corals during acclimation: is it the color or the intensity. Meaning, which is more "harmful" to shock the corals with.
For example, would introducing new lights at 100% intensity with 10% blue be worse then 100% blue at 10% intensity.
Thank you.
dt204
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I believe it's the intensity that can cause the problems. If a coral goes from low light to 100% intensity it will fry it. The color has little to no bearing on it. From what I've read about the kessil, it is best to set the color how you personally want your tank to look, as the technology allows quality light at any "color".
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bif24701
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I think with the Kessil Logic it's about intensity. Many fail to understand that these lights are powerful! The most successful SPS tank I have seen yet keep his Kessil 360s at a peak of only 35% and a few T5s.
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