LED lighting for reefs

fishamajiggle

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there are a whole bunch of products on the market now that either convert a regular flashlight into an l.e.d. light or all l.e.d. the light is VERY bright and some of the whitest light I have seen but does not run hot, and is very efficient on electric. i was wondering if anyone has experimented with these lights and what the pros and cons were of the setup. I think i might of seen something in a tfh magazine about a reef fixture with l.e.d.'s but im not sure. (and not as moonlights as primary light)

thanks
Dan
 
someone has actually made a hood of all led you can purchase but the cost right now is extremely expensive and the final results aren't in still fairly experimental and costly.

HTH
 
i was wondering if there is a par rating for led lights. and what would be the optimum par rating. and if you could buy the led's and what power source would run them.
 
Its a funny thing, but despite evidence to the contrary, people seem to think that white led lights are more efficient than conventional reef lighting.

The primary reason you do not yet see led lighting in lcd displays, despite the fact that they produce a better spectrum of light for running tvs., is because of this inefficiency.

Fred
 
Well, I took a few hours to read the thread and follow some links that ended up at the new pfo led light page, which claims a 40% energy cost savings over MH and was linked to a Dana Riddle review.

So, according to Danna, the new PFO hood produces 89% of the PAR of an xm 20k bulb. This is probably the bulb that pfo used to calculate its 'savings'. Given that the 20k xm is not the best of bulbs and produces about 1/2 the PAR of an iwaki 65k, where does that leave us?

Doing the math by quick and dirty guestimation, led lighting is somewhat less efficient than a standard 65k MH bulb.

Still, if you look at the Riddle review (reefs.org advanced Reefkeeping mag) the pfo light looks interesting and a great improvement over what was to be had 2 years ago.

1. the light distribution over the area measured is much better than a MH light.
2. from Danna's tests, it adds no (zip, nada...) heat to the aquarium
3. spectral distribution is pretty good.
4. thats one heck of a controller they have built into the light

The downsides are:

1. As mentioned earlier, one heck of a price tag
2. Following the link from Danna's review to one of the forums it seems that the light, while fine for softies and lower light stonies, is not quite enough for a hardcore sps system
3. the life expectancy of LEDs has yet to be proven and for whites have already been adjusted from 90% @ 1000,000 hours down to 70% @ 50,000 hours. First generation high quality leds fell far short of the adjusted life expectancy (from Phillips Lumileds site) and cheap leds are still crap.

Bottom line (in my mind anyway) is led lighting if finally getting close. Another year or two and a few more competitors and we will see some good options.

Long term, I think led will take over.

Fred
 
good research, i didnt think of them testing the led par vs. a poor mh par. and the fact that it dosent even stand up tp that is interesting. I have to agree about the nifty controller built into the hood, but I guess mh is easier to troubleshoot of there is problems, and easier to replace if bulbs expire. oh well, I guess it sounds like a good idea, hopefully more mfgs, can step up to the plate and make it more cost effective.
 
It will be interesting to see how this technology develops. Once perfected, with programmable color and intensity features, I think it will represent the closest thing to emulating daylight cycles. However, as mentioned here, without the PAR and "punch" of traditional lighting systems, it would be hard to justify that kind of money and risk on a valuable established system.
 
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