LED or Halide Question

LED or Halide Question

That's cute.

If you can't find the time to read something (moving your eyes back and forth)

Then sheesh, Why are you here on a forum? More importantly, why should anyone care about your opinion in the future?



This whole forum is based on the fact that everyone has their own opinion. Sure he got cute (made me chuckle) but your post was incessantly long let's be honest here lol. Also, FYI bpb is one of the most knowledgeable hobbyists I have had the pleasure of running into on these forums. O, And he is basically a lighting savant. His opinion is as warranted as anyone's including yours.....

I for one run led but halides certainly have their uses. The cost of high end LED's is absurd, if you buy enough fixtures to eliminate shadowing. I have a grand worth of ai lighting over a 29 gallon tank (hydra 52hd and 2 primes) to achieve the comprehensive coverage 1 250watt radium could achieve. I could buy a simple used 250 watt fixture, change out the bulbs once a year and grow anything I want for $200 max. It would take 8+ years of bulb changes for me to spend the grand I spent on my aqua illumination lighting. Sure I love my ai lighting but I still miss the look radiums gave the tank. Would I ever go back, probably not BUT that does not mean halides are not viable. Once again just my opinion which we are all entitled to.


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LED or Halide Question

You shouldn't care about anyone's opinion you don't want to. I lead a perfectly happy life by that philosophy. I apply it to several people on this thread. You should try it. Also try and lighten up. Stress is bad for your heart and head


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Boom. You're the man. Here is something for the rest of you
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No sarcasm but I got the jist of the post in the first paragraph. Literally and truly sure you're experienced and have a fine tank and know your lighting. But I'll be honest. As far as the rest of the post..
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I've used both and had plenty of friends who have used both and seen plenty of fantastic health way beyond the one year mark on bulbs. Yes they lose power and shift. But that doesn't guarantee coral death or even decline. Also for the record I use neither mh nor led. Saw positives of both though


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If you're too lazy to read a post, I'd hate to see your tank.


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At least I know the difference in 250watt of MH and 250watt of LEDs



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Hello fellow reefers, I have been reefing on and off for about 15 years. I last had my tanks in 2009 and I stepped away but I am back. Before I stepped away I always used 400W Radiums on my reef setups. Now that I am back the lighting game has changed.

So my question is LED or Halide? I fully understand the positives and negatives to halides but I don't really know much about LED's, so if you say LED's please explain why and which ones you would suggest. The lights will be going on a 120G 48x24x24 display tank.

Thank you in advance I greatly appreciate it.

I see you're from FL as well. I was facing the same situation with my 220. Was set to get a Hamilton fixture with Radium bulbs. Add in my choice of T5 bulbs and I was looking at ~$1500 out the door. Plus, a chiller would have pretty much been mandatory here.

Instead, I'm going with Kessil AP700's. Two of them. I got one from DrF&S for 25% off before they stopped allowing coupons :dance: Should have bought both. In any case, I'll either pick up the 2nd used or just bite the bullet and buy it new. For both that puts me at ~$1600 out the door. No chiller but that's a wash as I do plan on adding 4 T5 bulbs as the corals start to grow in. However, I won't have the ongoing heat issues that MH would have presented.

In the end, start up costs are negligibly different. Operating costs are a little less for the LED's over time. Add in heat savings though and it start to make a difference. I would have planned on changing MH bulbs ever year so that's $240/year. With electrical savings, both direct from the light and indirect from the heat, I'll probably save about $500/year.

One of my concerns is the longevity of MH's. The choices seem to get thinner year by year and I didn't want to make essentially the same investment as LED's but be left hanging in 4 or 5 years. Not a sure thing by any means, but something to consider if starting up a new system.
 
I see you're from FL as well. I was facing the same situation with my 220. Was set to get a Hamilton fixture with Radium bulbs. Add in my choice of T5 bulbs and I was looking at ~$1500 out the door. Plus, a chiller would have pretty much been mandatory here.

Instead, I'm going with Kessil AP700's. Two of them. I got one from DrF&S for 25% off before they stopped allowing coupons :dance: Should have bought both. In any case, I'll either pick up the 2nd used or just bite the bullet and buy it new. For both that puts me at ~$1600 out the door. No chiller but that's a wash as I do plan on adding 4 T5 bulbs as the corals start to grow in. However, I won't have the ongoing heat issues that MH would have presented.

In the end, start up costs are negligibly different. Operating costs are a little less for the LED's over time. Add in heat savings though and it start to make a difference. I would have planned on changing MH bulbs ever year so that's $240/year. With electrical savings, both direct from the light and indirect from the heat, I'll probably save about $500/year.

One of my concerns is the longevity of MH's. The choices seem to get thinner year by year and I didn't want to make essentially the same investment as LED's but be left hanging in 4 or 5 years. Not a sure thing by any means, but something to consider if starting up a new system.
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Why do you all argue about this? MH is tried and true but a somewhat brutish and outdated technology. LED is the new kid on the block that will inevitably exceed MH in every possible way but right now they are expensive to buy up front with a marginal cost to run long term. MH is the opposite.

That's it. Decide what you want based on that information. Getting into these peeing contests is silly. Trying to compare bulb vs no bulb or fabricate advantages to lights that can partially heat your home is all irrelevant and goofy.

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Why do you all argue about this? MH is tried and true but a somewhat brutish and outdated technology. LED is the new kid on the block that will inevitably exceed MH in every possible way but right now they are expensive to buy up front with a marginal cost to run long term. MH is the opposite.

That's it. Decide what you want based on that information. Getting into these peeing contests is silly. Trying to compare bulb vs no bulb or fabricate advantages to lights that can partially heat your home is all irrelevant and goofy.

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Just proves the reef bros can pee farther then you


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