leds and LPS color changes

This is a good thread . I am curious on the colors of red acro's . I had a Pac Sun early gen model that used bridgelux leds with a few UV leds in the unit . I had no problem keeping a Red Planet Acro red with this unit . Pac Sun did away with UV leds on the newer generation units . Stating the manu are behind the diyer's is not true imho . The above statement indicates otherwise . Why they stopped is beyond me .
LEDs in general put out little if any UV at all . T5's and halides put out quite a bit of UV .
I learned from a t5 user that if you put a cable tie around a t5 bulb such as a blue plus or the special in time it will make the cable tie brittle enough to fall off the bulb . This is from UV exposure .
Chemistry can play a role in coloration . Zeo heads and bio-pellet users have learned that these types of filtration methods will strip the water column of potassium . Red montipora's are known to pale out due to the lack of potassium .
I now use a manu unit that has cree Xp series leds in it . 10 cool white , 4 RB and 4 Blue's . I did add a rose/ red Tru Lumen strip to the fixture . It has 4 leds on the strip mounted to the rear of the unit . I was advised by the manu of my fixture that the color may bring the red's out but would only cause algae issues .
I did aquire a red milli recently but it was not really red in the store when I purchased it .
It has yet to color up .I can rule out potassium ,po4 as an issue as I have no measureable po4 and I add potassium once a week via . Lugols , Brightwell's Potassion and Eco NF metals + water changes TM Bioactif Salt . Since reading this thread I will use the rose /red strip more to see if it makes any improvements .
Any thoughts on how long to run them ? I will let them run 4 hours a day for starter's . I used to only run them for an hour before the blues shut down for the night since I liked the pop it gave the tank.
So in a nutshell I am as stumped about this as everyone else ,
 
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Didn't mean to jack the thread in the earlier post but here is an example of color changes with leds . This was an acan I named peppermint patty .

When I got it .

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I split the colony and this is what is looks like 1+ year 's later

As of a few months ago . it is in the lower bottom pic .

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Another picture .

Doesn't help with a crappy camera . It's hard to take pic's with the leds too .

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Part of me likes the rainbow look it has now but I wish it would have kept the original colors .
 
I have just been told that the missing wavelength for the red colors of LPS is more related to the UV spectrum than to the 640-660 red part. So the easiest solution could be to install a germicide lamp as an addition to the leds fixture.

Any experience on that?
 
The only problem I've had out of my leds was from my trachyphyllias. They both started to bleach so I moved them over to my 40 breeder with t5s. They are starting to color back up again. I have a red war coral with green eyes that never looked right under metal halides but it's beautifully colored now since I switched to leds. Very nice red and green. Acans, favias, etc. all kept the same color after switching from halides to leds.
 
LeLutinBanni, what color temp are the whites in your LED fixture? Neutral or cool?


sfexplicit, I have had the same exact thing happen to me using Sol Blue's, which have cool white LEDs. What whites do the Reefkoi fixtures use?
 
At the end and reading everything I have taken the decision to complement my led ligthting. I have bought a 30 W T8 fluorescent fixture and the fluorescent is a light for reptiles with UVA and UVB spectrum. I will inform you about the results.
 
I thought that what ever colors they have for example red, that is the color they do not absorb
 
Have you made sure it's not too much uva/uvb to burn your corals?

I was gonna say the same thing. I only run my daylight LED's for like 1 hour a day.... The same thing happens with t5s and halides. Too much light and LPS lose color
 
Has anyone changed their time and intensity of lighting for a period of time to see if the colors come back?
 
LeLutinBanni, what color temp are the whites in your LED fixture? Neutral or cool?


sfexplicit, I have had the same exact thing happen to me using Sol Blue's, which have cool white LEDs. What whites do the Reefkoi fixtures use?

I'm pretty sure they're cool whites too. I can't say it's that it's too much light. With PAR meter the red acans under my ATI Powermodule on the sand bed was getting about 200-250. Under my LEDs it was getting about 150. Ive read that PAR meters read 20% under with the LEDs. But I'm leaning towards spectrum of my setup. I also have an orange and purple yuma I've had for years under T5's it too has morphed into a gold color.
 
Has anyone changed their time and intensity of lighting for a period of time to see if the colors come back?

I changed the intensity by swapping out the set up from primarily 3w LEDs to primarily 1w LEDs. The formerly red acans still remained orange for several months.

Two weeks ago I returned the set up to primarily 3w LEDs but with magenta and violet ecoxotic stunners to supplement and highlight the reds and purples. I am very happy w/ this set up so far. The acans are showing a rosey color now. Not dark red but no longer just orange. Trumpets, acans cyphastria and brain corals all have responded well to return to 3w LEDs.

One big difference this time was decreasing the amount of CWs. If you have dimmers I guess you could just dial down the CWs. I do not have dimmers so I reduced the CW to RB ratio and added the magenta and violet stunners.

kevin
 
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