Thanks, melev. Yeah, the sunset is exploding with growth lately. I'm going to have to frag it here soon. Any tips on how to take some frags from it? I can't remove the piece so I'm really at a loss for what to do. I was thinking about maybe trying to pry some of it up with the edge of a razor but I'm not sure how that will work. If you look closely in the Oct 07 and the following pic, you can see the little nub I started with. Yup you're right about the blue zoas; that's my huge colony of tubs I started from around 12 polyps or so. They've been a great grower and pretty hardy for me. There has to be well over 200 polyps now.