Let's talk about Alkalinity, Calcium and Magnesium in an SPS Tank

Well if you are getting good growth and the CA and Alk are falling, then you'll need to start dosing.

Dosing kalk in the topoff might be a good first step.
 
im at a point in my 29 gallon reef build in which id like to start adding some sps corals. i currently have 300W lights, so i know thats intense enough but i still have no idea what to do with CA and ALK for the corals. in the past i have been good without dosing but ive never kept sps before help please!
Take weekly measurements for calcium alkalinity and magnesium for the next well and it will give you an idea on the demands
Also use a good quality salt mix like reef crystals
 
Take weekly measurements for calcium alkalinity and magnesium for the next well and it will give you an idea on the demands
Also use a good quality salt mix like reef crystals

+1 i was running coral pro and one day decided to test some reef crystals i had laying around..

reef crystals had 10alk and 440 cal while coral pro had 8 alk and 400 cal. i changed to reef crystals and everything has been perfect
 
I have recently started dosing my 5 months old 20G, because I realized I had too many SPS and the Redsea coral pro salt wasn't keeping up with alkanity.

Now I'm dosing 2-part and doing a 30% WC every other week. The salt I'm using has elevated levels of elements, cal is about 475 and alk could be as high as 13dkh. I've read that high levels of major elements could effect the colors negatively especially in a low nutrient system. I just happen to have low nitrates because I only have one small fish and lots of high quality LR and I also siphon the sand bed every time I do a WC.

I would like to lower the alkalinity specifically, but it seems my 30% WC would bring it back up to quickly and that might stress the SPS and I could never run lower alkalinity without making the system somewhat unstable. I'm kind of stocked with this salt for a year. I know it's a good salt and I bought it because I thought I was going to keep it simple and never dose, which changed soon after I realized I can't resist buying new corals. :crazy1:

I would like to get the colors I was getting before I started dosing. Should I change the salt? if yes what to? or should I find a middle ground for my levels? If yes what levels do you guys recommend? I'm currently trying to keep the cal at 470 and alk around 10.
 
Good question nematode.

I'm fairly new to the hobby, but I've read that 10 to 15% weekly or 25 to 30% biweekly WC is required to maintain a skimmerless nano system for the long term. I have a busy lifestyle so doing less frequently WC is something I'm after. I even want to them once every 3 weeks and that's why I don't add more fish to the system.
 
I have recently started dosing my 5 months old 20G, because I realized I had too many SPS and the Redsea coral pro salt wasn't keeping up with alkanity.

Now I'm dosing 2-part and doing a 30% WC every other week. The salt I'm using has elevated levels of elements, cal is about 475 and alk could be as high as 13dkh. I've read that high levels of major elements could effect the colors negatively especially in a low nutrient system. I just happen to have low nitrates because I only have one small fish and lots of high quality LR and I also siphon the sand bed every time I do a WC.

I would like to lower the alkalinity specifically, but it seems my 30% WC would bring it back up to quickly and that might stress the SPS and I could never run lower alkalinity without making the system somewhat unstable. I'm kind of stocked with this salt for a year. I know it's a good salt and I bought it because I thought I was going to keep it simple and never dose, which changed soon after I realized I can't resist buying new corals. :crazy1:

I would like to get the colors I was getting before I started dosing. Should I change the salt? if yes what to? or should I find a middle ground for my levels? If yes what levels do you guys recommend? I'm currently trying to keep the cal at 470 and alk around 10.
Suggest a weekly 10 per cent water change ..in your case 2 gal. Your alk should fall on its own with less of a water change at once.
 
Good question nematode.

I'm fairly new to the hobby, but I've read that 10 to 15% weekly or 25 to 30% biweekly WC is required to maintain a skimmerless nano system for the long term. I have a busy lifestyle so doing less frequently WC is something I'm after. I even want to them once every 3 weeks and that's why I don't add more fish to the system.
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With that small of a tank it is very difficult to maintain your biochemistry with infrequent water changes as you are already experiencing
 
I have recently started dosing my 5 months old 20G, because I realized I had too many SPS and the Redsea coral pro salt wasn't keeping up with alkanity.



Now I'm dosing 2-part and doing a 30% WC every other week. The salt I'm using has elevated levels of elements, cal is about 475 and alk could be as high as 13dkh. I've read that high levels of major elements could effect the colors negatively especially in a low nutrient system. I just happen to have low nitrates because I only have one small fish and lots of high quality LR and I also siphon the sand bed every time I do a WC.



I would like to lower the alkalinity specifically, but it seems my 30% WC would bring it back up to quickly and that might stress the SPS and I could never run lower alkalinity without making the system somewhat unstable. I'm kind of stocked with this salt for a year. I know it's a good salt and I bought it because I thought I was going to keep it simple and never dose, which changed soon after I realized I can't resist buying new corals. :crazy1:



I would like to get the colors I was getting before I started dosing. Should I change the salt? if yes what to? or should I find a middle ground for my levels? If yes what levels do you guys recommend? I'm currently trying to keep the cal at 470 and alk around 10.


I was in a similar situation and needed to drop alk as I am carbon dosing and nutrients are low. Was running coral pro and alk at 9.2

I switched to the blue bucket Red Sea and could not be happier. I now run alk at 7.3 and I get around 7.5 from freshly made water.

To lower alk I discontinued use of kalk in my ato reservoir and allowed it to fall on it's own until I got where I wanted.
 
As I answered above. If you switch to weekly 10% water changes your Alk and calcium levels will drop.smaller more frequent water changes change water chemistry very little and this consistency is what you or the SPs corals want.
Btw your calcium level is high..just wasting it..390 to 420 is all you need**

** dr. Randy Holmes-farley
 
I dose around 100ml of part a and b from BRS. I dose hourly a very small amount (alk on the hour and calcium 30 minutes after). I like dosing hourly because it keeps my PH and alk stable. I use BRS 1.1ml dosers and use the Apex OSC calculator.....makes it very easy to setup and change

I'm going to this model from a once daily model sometime next week... I as well have the BRS dosers, but am using a RKL instead of Apex but same idea.

Did you start from hourly, or did you start from once daily to hourly? If so, did you have any hiccups when changing over?
 
i have been using all in one bio pellets and dosing micro bacter 7, do i need to keep the Alk at 7.5 ?
 
An ulns system can be problematic with SPs corals. Successful reports from refers occurs when phosphates are kept around .02 and Gfo is not run on a constant basis


I agree. I have noticed when running po4 at 0 and nitrate at 0 it causes issues with paleness and coloration. I now run mine at about .03 po4 and .5-1 ppm nitrate.
 
Very informative post
Running bio pellets leads to lower alk if I'm correct? What about calcium then?

Carbon dosing does not lead to lower alk or calcium.
Carbon dosing can lead to an increase of bacteria that corals consume. Increased coral growth will put more demand on alk and calcium.
 
Same with macro growth. Puts ("doses") more glucose in the water, which feeds more bacteria, which feeds more corals. Which then of course consume more alk, ca.
 
I can't tell you how happy it makes me to see this thread still going after 7 years! Yeah learning!
 
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