Lets talk about Vodka/sugar dosing
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jamesdawson
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jamesdawson
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Hi everyone!
Question, where are you getting the Acetate at (for dosing)?
Thanks,
James
Question, where are you getting the Acetate at (for dosing)?
Thanks,
James
sailfintang
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Acetate = white distilled vinegar
Read here:
http://glassbox-design.com/2008/achieved-through-observation-and-experimentation/
jamesdawson
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Thanks!
,James
,James
melev
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I'm on Day 12 today. 11 doses into my system, all the tips of my SPS look fine. Cyano still present in few small spots. I can't tell if it is flaking off or getting stronger (results seem to vary).
One of my Montipora (capricornis-like) seems to have some fading in the center. I don't know if it is related or not.
One of my Montipora (capricornis-like) seems to have some fading in the center. I don't know if it is related or not.
melev
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Today, I noticed the tips of one Green Slimer were burned. And a few tips on another less than happy montipora. Only two corals out of my entire reef, but I'm studying them all extra closely while dosing.
I dosed 2.5 ml today; tomorrow I'll test and see what my tank's parameters are. I may cut back on the dosage, but I'm unsure because I don't want to jump the gun either direction.
I dosed 2.5 ml today; tomorrow I'll test and see what my tank's parameters are. I may cut back on the dosage, but I'm unsure because I don't want to jump the gun either direction.
calciumbuf
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13023967#post13023967 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
I've not tested yet, because I don't want to jinx it.I did take a picture of the coral.
Thanks Nook!
I had the identical thing happen to several of my monti's (caps and digita) I was up to 6ml (after two months) a day on a 600gal total sytem Have since backed off and weaned off totally but to early to tell if it was the culprit, all other parameters have been rock steady throughout, I also have run my alk at 8dkh while dosing to be closer to NSW. This is a bugger of a problem long recovery times, Jim
glassbox-design
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Hi Mark,
What is your alkalinity?
I have not had any tips burning or other coral discolorations in the 3 weeks of dosing (I'm up to 2mL of vodka, 1/2tbsp of sugar, and maybe 4mL vinegar mixed into kalkwasser topoff).
My only complaint is that I'm DEFINITELY seeing more red slime algae. It's now on my frag rack as well as showing up in some places in the rock work. It HAS to be feeding off the VSV...
I may end up taking a break from VSV if the red slime continues. My NO3 is non-existant, but PO4 is slightslight blue on the salifert kit. Can't really measure it up perfectly.
Also as an aside, my Alk is measuring 11 now, where it's always hovered in the 6-7dkh range. I'm guessing it has to do with the other thread that was on here about the alk readings being off because of the increased carbon in the water? I have not seen anyone discuss or mention it here, but it seemed to be a reality in the other thread. Any thoughts?
My only complaint is that I'm DEFINITELY seeing more red slime algae. It's now on my frag rack as well as showing up in some places in the rock work. It HAS to be feeding off the VSV...
I may end up taking a break from VSV if the red slime continues. My NO3 is non-existant, but PO4 is slightslight blue on the salifert kit. Can't really measure it up perfectly.
Also as an aside, my Alk is measuring 11 now, where it's always hovered in the 6-7dkh range. I'm guessing it has to do with the other thread that was on here about the alk readings being off because of the increased carbon in the water? I have not seen anyone discuss or mention it here, but it seemed to be a reality in the other thread. Any thoughts?
glassbox-design
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13031376#post13031376 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ReefWreak
I have not had any tips burning or other coral discolorations in the 3 weeks of dosing (I'm up to 2mL of vodka, 1/2tbsp of sugar, and maybe 4mL vinegar mixed into kalkwasser topoff).
My only complaint is that I'm DEFINITELY seeing more red slime algae. It's now on my frag rack as well as showing up in some places in the rock work. It HAS to be feeding off the VSV...
You're not the first. Some tanks can overcome cyano growth, others seem as though they cannot. Here's a quick study I pulled from Google Scholar...
Physiological characteristics of cyanobacteria in pulp and paper waste-treatment systems
Authors: Kirkwood A.E.1; Nalewajko C.2; Fulthorpe R.R.2
Source: Journal of Applied Phycology, Volume 15, Number 4, July 2003 , pp. 325-335(11)
In our experience, NSW Params are a must. 6.5-8dkh is ideal. (Higher if using SCRS)
I do usually measure safely in that range. It is only since starting VSV that I have measured (do not know if it is the true value or not) my dKh being much higher than normal (11dKh versus 6-7dKh). I have also played with my calcium reactor in that time period, and have lowered the pH significantly, but again, I don't know if the number is artifically inflated due to the interaction with the acetate from the VSV dosing. It was outlined in a thread found here: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1438085
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13023967#post13023967 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
I've not tested yet, because I don't want to jinx it.
Is that a Tyree Flower Petal? I have one and the whole center lightened. Wierd part is that there is still zooxanthellae there, just a different color. I can still see flourescence when I shine a flashlight on the monti's center in a dark tank. It happened around the same time I started BioDigest/VSV dosing. Kinda made the coral ugly.
melev
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Just got finished testing my water. Before dosing tonight's 2.5 ml.
pH 8.06 (at the end of the photo period - quite odd)
Temp 79.9F
Sg 1.025
ORP 296 (just cleaned the probe - doesn't mean anything)
Alk 7.0 dKH (Whoa! That explains the low pH) (Tested with two different kits for same results)
Ca 460 ppm
Mg 1300 ppm
NO3 .25 ppm (definitely has begun to drop, because the kit didn't turn pink instantly as in the past)
PO4 .1 ppm
My Calcium reactor still seems to be giving me some issues. Yesterday, I noticed the effluent pH was pretty high - indicated a lack of CO2 in the reactor - and the regulator wasn't maintaining 12 psi as usual. I made the adjustment. So seeing the lower Alk today makes sense.
I'm going to check out Jdieck's calculator to see about getting it up to 8.0 before more tips display signs of issues.
Tomorrow is Week #3, and I'll be dosing 3 ml per day.
pH 8.06 (at the end of the photo period - quite odd)
Temp 79.9F
Sg 1.025
ORP 296 (just cleaned the probe - doesn't mean anything)
Alk 7.0 dKH (Whoa! That explains the low pH) (Tested with two different kits for same results)
Ca 460 ppm
Mg 1300 ppm
NO3 .25 ppm (definitely has begun to drop, because the kit didn't turn pink instantly as in the past)
PO4 .1 ppm
My Calcium reactor still seems to be giving me some issues. Yesterday, I noticed the effluent pH was pretty high - indicated a lack of CO2 in the reactor - and the regulator wasn't maintaining 12 psi as usual. I made the adjustment. So seeing the lower Alk today makes sense.
I'm going to check out Jdieck's calculator to see about getting it up to 8.0 before more tips display signs of issues.
Tomorrow is Week #3, and I'll be dosing 3 ml per day.
IRISSERVICE
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Jdieck's calculator?
Jdieck's calculator?
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