Levamisole In-Tank Treatment for AEFW
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Just checked system and all look good. Skimmer working nice. I have a lot of dead bristle worms in my refugium. My clam was upset last night and I am waiting for my lights to go on.
I did not notice and dead acros. I do feel that the AEFW were dead from the treatment. I am sure I have more to kill and will do at least 6 more treatments.
What i an nervous about is making sure I breaking the hatching cycle.
Maybe do another dose in 5 days? how old do they have to be to lay eggs??
I did not notice and dead acros. I do feel that the AEFW were dead from the treatment. I am sure I have more to kill and will do at least 6 more treatments.
What i an nervous about is making sure I breaking the hatching cycle.
Maybe do another dose in 5 days? how old do they have to be to lay eggs??
rogerwilco357
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question when you use these poisons to kill the bugs do they just die from contact or do they ingest it absorb it ? Ask only because I hear alot of you say when you blow them off the acro the fish eat them does it pose any threat to the fish if consumed?
No dead fish correct?
No dead fish correct?
We had a nasty storm last night and a fish jumped ship:worried:
I got home a few hours ago and most fish seem to be stressed. My anthia is in the corner slightly gasping.
Corals look pretty good. Colors better then I expected. I fed the fish and most ate. I put a large piece of nory on a clip and they want to eat but just seem scared. My cardinals are unaffected and seem great.
I did a water change and set up camp for 2 wrasses. I put a tuperwear container in the back of my reef with sand. I got a pair of melanorus wrasses to help the cause
I would not think that my fish would get sick. The medicine paralyzes the parasite so they release from the intestine of the sheep or pig so they poop it out.
I did use a larger dose. One teaspoon is about 5 grams. I used a little less then 1.5 teaspoons.
If anything I overdosed the AEFW. Next time I dose I will have salt water untreated so I can catch flatworms and make sure they are dead.
Last night I used regular water but it was dead before I changed it over tonthe other cup.
I do not see any more damage on my corals. I will blow them off tonight. I will put Saran wrap on my tank so I do not lose anymore fish.
akaimal
Premium Member
I dipped all my corals in prazipro @7ml per gallon of water once a week. On the first dip I found 100s of flat worms!!! I removed all the eggs that I could find. The buggers die immediately with prazipro!! Before this I was turkey basting every other day thinking that my tank is under control! Found out that turkey basting is inefficient in controlling these things!
Then last Friday after 12 days I dipped everything again. Found only 2 or 3 flat worms! I will do one more dip in another 20 days after one egg cycle is over. I am convinced that systematic dipping of all the acros 4 or 5 times will get rid of them for good!
My tank has acro colonies of the size of basketball, encrusted. It was very hard the first time. The second time I was able to do it without much pain as I had a plan for the order in which I take out the corals.
Dipping is 100% worth it!
Then last Friday after 12 days I dipped everything again. Found only 2 or 3 flat worms! I will do one more dip in another 20 days after one egg cycle is over. I am convinced that systematic dipping of all the acros 4 or 5 times will get rid of them for good!
My tank has acro colonies of the size of basketball, encrusted. It was very hard the first time. The second time I was able to do it without much pain as I had a plan for the order in which I take out the corals.
Dipping is 100% worth it!
I would think with huge corals it would be tough to get all around.
I have small corals. I did dip the ones I could remove easily. I do not want to destroy the reef.
I am willing to keep trying for a few weeks.
It's the first day I did nit find a coral almost torn apart.
I have small corals. I did dip the ones I could remove easily. I do not want to destroy the reef.
I am willing to keep trying for a few weeks.
It's the first day I did nit find a coral almost torn apart.
Bax
Premium Member
akaimal
I too had dinner plate sized tables when my battle started.
Here's the one peoblem with dipping out side the system as the only treatment. .... Eggs
They are everywhere. And, if one hatches and produces a half dozen or so little AEFWs and even one finds any acro tissue AEFWs will survive and reproduce. In your system. And your battle will continue.
We heard from several posters, myself included, saying that they have found eggs well off the acros themselves on live rock and other objects within the system.
I think dipping is an abosultely necessary step to reducing the breeding population that will cooperate and stay on your acros for the dipping process to get to them. But at some point, when you are no longer seeing adults, I feel you have to treat the system, regularly to address hatchlings and those stuborn adults that just won't be on an acro when you are dipping.
It would be very helpful to see a controlled study on what is needed to kill the new hatchlings in the system. Can PROHIBIT or Prazi do it? IDK! I have to believe the new hatchlings are not as tough as the large adults, and PROHIBIT is certainly killing other much larger animals in my system.
I think the best solution will rely on dipping and some systemic treatment to get to true elimination
I too had dinner plate sized tables when my battle started.
Here's the one peoblem with dipping out side the system as the only treatment. .... Eggs
They are everywhere. And, if one hatches and produces a half dozen or so little AEFWs and even one finds any acro tissue AEFWs will survive and reproduce. In your system. And your battle will continue.
We heard from several posters, myself included, saying that they have found eggs well off the acros themselves on live rock and other objects within the system.
I think dipping is an abosultely necessary step to reducing the breeding population that will cooperate and stay on your acros for the dipping process to get to them. But at some point, when you are no longer seeing adults, I feel you have to treat the system, regularly to address hatchlings and those stuborn adults that just won't be on an acro when you are dipping.
It would be very helpful to see a controlled study on what is needed to kill the new hatchlings in the system. Can PROHIBIT or Prazi do it? IDK! I have to believe the new hatchlings are not as tough as the large adults, and PROHIBIT is certainly killing other much larger animals in my system.
I think the best solution will rely on dipping and some systemic treatment to get to true elimination
Chinch Bug
Member
I did the full tank treatment once and my clams suffered a bit for some reason. Since then I have been using prohibit as a dip at about ten times recommended strength . The aefw peel off in seconds and the corals come out just fine. I usually dip for about 20 minutes. It is really great dip for removal of aefw, red bugs and monti nudis.
akaimal
Premium Member
Bax, Even if eggs are every where, after each dip, what ever is left on the rocks, after hatching , needs to climb on to an acro to eat, so before the new batch reaches maturity, if you keep dipping, dont you think eventually all of them would die?
On my second dip after 2 weeks, I found onlt two adult AEFW and a batch of eggs on one colony. The strength of the dip is critical. At hight strengths of prazipro, AEFW peel immediately off the SPS and die. There is no negative impact on the coral.
It is important that you dip all the acros in your system. I will keep you guys posted on the result of my third dip that I am planning to do after a week.
On my second dip after 2 weeks, I found onlt two adult AEFW and a batch of eggs on one colony. The strength of the dip is critical. At hight strengths of prazipro, AEFW peel immediately off the SPS and die. There is no negative impact on the coral.
It is important that you dip all the acros in your system. I will keep you guys posted on the result of my third dip that I am planning to do after a week.
Bax
Premium Member
I could not agree more! In any effort to rid a system of AEFWs, dipping all the corals is critical. In my efforts, I dipped vigorously and I still kept seeing AEFW rebound when I had thought I was done. I repeated dipping several times. It was only after dosing that I stopped seeing the rebound.
I am still concerned that AEFW rebound can occur to my system. I still dip and observe what crittes are repopulating. Although I have not seen AWEFs, I have seen planaria coming back. Although I;ve never had a big issue with these, more benign, FWs my concern is, if they can repopulate, why cant the AEFWs do so as well? That is how I came to the decision to do monthly dosing in my tank that resulted in my fish losses.
This is a very persistent enemy and although I would love to think I have moved on, I have to keep looking over my shoulder until we are sure we've got the right protocol to get beyond these pests. :fish1:
Bax
Premium Member
Well, that's where I got mine .... Did you search PROHIBIT?
roberto_lopes
Member
Well, after the 5th treatment, again (since the 3rd) we cannot found any AEFW nor Eggs. I can now declare my friend's tank AEFW free after 5 weekes.
No losses of anything (corals, fishes, inverts, clams, anemones). I'm very happy now.
No losses of anything (corals, fishes, inverts, clams, anemones). I'm very happy now.
roberto_lopes
Member
Well
I can do that for sure. Tomorrow I'll post the images and formule.
I can do that for sure. Tomorrow I'll post the images and formule.
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