Lighting for bubble tip anemone, short tank..are LFS wrong?

courtneyclv

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Two of my LFS have said that the lighting I have is good for an anemone. Two coralife 50/50's 60 watt total. They both said that becaues my tank is only 14 inches tall and long, that is good.

Now...I would think they would WANT me to upgrade my lighting because I would be spending at least $200 or more? (and anemones are around $40)

Is this not correct???
 
Its for a 75 gallon though? I'm thinking spread over that much tank its not going to be anywhere close. I'm sorry they said that to you, its very frustrating to hear what they say at the LFS ;).

Check out these FAQ's on BTA systems: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/btasysfaqs.htm

They suggest metal halides as the best for BTA's, but you could prob do fine with some high wattage flourescents. They also need mature systems and stable water conditions.

Good luck!
 
You won't need Metal Halides on a tank that shallow, but I would say at least 4- 96 watt PCs to get the coverage that you will need.

60 watts over a 75 gal tank is barely enough light to see your fish. :D
 
So my tank is 82 inches long. I believe I have two hoods that hold single bulbs, that are 36 inches long each.

What kind of lighting, what wattage can I get with what I have to host my anemone? Oh and my lights right now are 60watt total, 12,000k total.

(The coralife 50/50I have is very purplish in color..dont like em too much)
 
"What kind of lighting, what wattage can I get with what I have to host my anemone?"

I believe you may either need to get new hoods or modify the ones you need to add enough light. I agree with Phender, if you can get 2 X 96 watt pc bulbs on each hood (for a total of 4 X 96) that may be adequate for the BTA. I would say this is absolute minimum lighting however.
 
Sounds like a pretty small tank for a BTA. Your Hobby experience says brand new. Your tank needs to be well established before adding an anemone of any kind, six months minimum. Does your LFS know your tank is brand new?
 
Re: Lighting for bubble tip anemone, short tank..are LFS wrong?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7911372#post7911372 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by courtneyclv
Now...I would think they would WANT me to upgrade my lighting because I would be spending at least $200 or more? (and anemones are around $40)

Is this not correct???
Incorrect.
Why should your LFS's want you to spend only $200 when they can get $240 out of you? ;)
 
Yes, they know it is brand new, about 5 weeks old. I talk with them weekly and tell them about my tank. They are a family business which is very well known for being helpful, having integrity etc. in Las Vegas.

sorry but where is the $240 from? It seems like everyone on here like to almost 'bash' the LFS..thinking they are always just out to make a profit even it it means being cruel to fish and giving us things that are not right for our tanks...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7917896#post7917896 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by courtneyclv
sorry but where is the $240 from?
one anemone ($40) plus the lights ($200) = $240
Of course, upgrading your lighting before purchasing the anemone is the way to go.
60 watts is just not enough light for a BTA.
PS: I'm a big supporter of LFS's...
and I won't make a single dime with whatever you decide to do!
 
Well if your LFS wants to sell you an anemone in a 14 X 14 tank, and it's only 5 weeks old . . . . . Guess what, they are out to get your money!

The $240 comes from you buying the anemone, then when it's not doing well you come back and upgrade your lighting system.

Take the advice on the people on here, they won't point you in the wrong direction, if someone does, someone else will jump in and correct them.
 
Re: Lighting for bubble tip anemone, short tank..are LFS wrong?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7911372#post7911372 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by courtneyclv
Two of my LFS have said that the lighting I have is good for an anemone. Two coralife 50/50's 60 watt total. They both said that becaues my tank is only 14 inches tall and long, that is good.

Now...I would think they would WANT me to upgrade my lighting because I would be spending at least $200 or more? (and anemones are around $40)

Is this not correct???

I've noticed that your sig line says that your tank is a 78 long, yet you've only given us two measurements for its dimensions of 14x14. So if the height is 14 inches and the depth is 14 inches, what is the width of your tank?
At 14x14x?, that ?i s what, around 48 inches or so?
If you indeed have a 78 gallon tank, and only 16 lbs of liverock and it's only 5 weeks old, you've got a lot of growing and patience to do with this tank before it's ready to hold an anemone.
If I've misread your sig line and your tank is a 14x14 cube, then it's far too small for an anemone to live in. Maybe try something smaller with an anemone look like a frogspawn or hammer coral if that's the case.

Going with the assumption that it is indeed a 78 gallon tank, here's some tips, just my .02.
Your tank needs to mature. Give it at least 5 more months before introducing an anemone.
Your tank needs more liverock. Aim for a pound per gallon, as your liverock with act as a filter to keep your reef healthy and stable and keep your anemone alive.
Your tank needs more lighting. Aim for at least 4 watts per gallon since the tank is shallow. Spend this 5 months of waiting doing some research into the lighting requirements of the anemone that you want and then upgrade your lighting as your tank matures. BTA's and LTA's can thrive under powerful enough powercompact lighting (with your tank at least a 4x65 setup) but carpets and other anemones will require some metal halide lighting, especially the ones that live at the bottom of the tank like carpet anemones.

I'm not trying to bash your LFS here, but no LFS that I visit regularly would ever recomend an anemone to a tank that is only 5 weeks old. I spend a lot of money in my LFS's on food and supplements, but there are some things that I would only buy in an emergency from them like pumps and lighting. Most of the Durable Hard Goods can be purchased online for far cheaper and my LFS guys understand that. But if I was in an emergency situation, I know where I would turn for a pump at 12 noon on a Sunday.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7917896#post7917896 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by courtneyclv
....... It seems like everyone on here like to almost 'bash' the LFS..thinking they are always just out to make a profit even it it means being cruel to fish and giving us things that are not right for our tanks...

If your tank is 5 week old and only has two 30 watt fluorescent bulbs, then they deserve to get bashed for telling you that you can keep an anemone. I don't know how your posts got split but the answers to your lighting questions are in the other thread.

For those of you who didn't see the other thread, Courtney has a very unusual tank. It is 82" long and 14" high, 78 gallons in total. It was recommended in the other thread that she have at least 4 - 96 watt PCs over the tank.
 
Yes my tank is unusual and the 3 LFS that I go to..all reputable, all tell me the same thing. I don't mean to get you all upset, but I just thought it was strange that they all tell me the same thing and tell me not to upgrade my lighting when it does cost so very much.

I WILL be upgrading it though, this week.
I have two hoods, to hold two 36 inch bulbs. Can I get two bulbs, singly, that would be enought wattage and K's?

:)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7939095#post7939095 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishnfst
2x96w pc's are only 36"

She would have to do some monkeying around with her standard fluorescent hoods in order to get them to accept the powercompact bulbs, reflectors, and ballasts required to make PC lighting work.
courtneyclv, you might be best off just replacing the hoods entirely with new fixtures.
Got any pictures of the set up?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7927107#post7927107 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phender
For those of you who didn't see the other thread, Courtney has a very unusual tank. It is 82" long and 14" high, 78 gallons in total. It was recommended in the other thread that she have at least 4 - 96 watt PCs over the tank.
The first post was a dupe, two threads started, now merged ;>)

Leaving or merging was going to continue confusing folks, so I merged to clean up the database :)

Cheers.
 
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