hahnmeister
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As far as I know, the 10,000K and 20,000K bulbs that hamilton sells are Ushios.
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Robert Patterso
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I've got a question for you guys. I've got a new 400w PFO hqi ballast. Been hooked up for about a week now. Running a xm 10k bulb about 10-12 months old. Today I noticed the bulb would get brighter then dimmer, after doing this for about 30 minutes the bulb went out. Let the ballast cool for a while, turned it back on and after 20-30 min. it did the same thing, went out.
Do you think its the ballast or the bulb? I hooked my old ballast back up and the bulb is still working. Although it's a standard Cool Touch ballast. So I quessing it doesn't put out as much power to the bulb....
Any thoughts.....
Do you think its the ballast or the bulb? I hooked my old ballast back up and the bulb is still working. Although it's a standard Cool Touch ballast. So I quessing it doesn't put out as much power to the bulb....
Any thoughts.....
hahnmeister
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XM 10,000Ks are not HQI rated bulbs, and so running one on a HQI ballast will cause it to wear out faster. Its most likely the bulb+ballast. You can either continue to run the bulb on the lesser ballast, or buy a new bulb for the HQI one.
hahnmeister
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250wattDE bulbs, 150wattDE bulbs, some 250wattSE bulbs (very few, read PaulErik's post on the last page), and a few 400wattSE bulbs (Aqualine 10,000K, Ushio/BLV nepturion 10,000K, 14,000K, 20,000K -non-cwa models, Aquaconnect 14,000K). No 400wattDE bulbs are HQI rated.
Sanjay
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This week, I finished testing the Coralvue Reeflux 12K (175W,250W, and 400W) and the ReefOptics 250W, 10K,14K,20K lamps. I am pretty much through with my back log of lamps other than a couple of 150W DE and a few used lamps.
I was wondering if there are any other commonly used lamps for which I have no data, and data maybe worth having. If so, let me know and I will try to get them for the next batch of testing.
sanjay.
I was wondering if there are any other commonly used lamps for which I have no data, and data maybe worth having. If so, let me know and I will try to get them for the next batch of testing.
sanjay.
TropTrea
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This is precisely what I was refering to. Basicly what would help here is a comparison of outputs from the bulbs in a comparison to time. With this one would also have to run several bulbs from various batches of each type to give some form of dependability to the data.
Now lets look at these numbers. If the XM 10,000K initially has a ppdf of 180, and looses 60% in 9 months it is still at 72 which is higher than 50% of the SE 250 W bulbs. Now if it looses only 10% then were talking 162 which still puts it in the top 5.
Now my thoughts on my new 120 gallon was to go with an HQI ballast with a pair of either XM 10,000K or Ushio 6,500K and to suplement that using T-5's with 2 54W atinics and 2 54 W Blue Plus. But if these MH bulbs are so bad on HQI ballasts then I might be better off just going to the old style ballasts, either bulb should give me enough light to even keep SPS's near the top of the tank.
Dennis
Now lets look at these numbers. If the XM 10,000K initially has a ppdf of 180, and looses 60% in 9 months it is still at 72 which is higher than 50% of the SE 250 W bulbs. Now if it looses only 10% then were talking 162 which still puts it in the top 5.
Now my thoughts on my new 120 gallon was to go with an HQI ballast with a pair of either XM 10,000K or Ushio 6,500K and to suplement that using T-5's with 2 54W atinics and 2 54 W Blue Plus. But if these MH bulbs are so bad on HQI ballasts then I might be better off just going to the old style ballasts, either bulb should give me enough light to even keep SPS's near the top of the tank.
Dennis
hahnmeister
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The G-man 14,500K or 'Coral' vs. the 13,000K 'Marine'... was that ever sorted out? If you want, I can send you a 14,500K to test... used for 120 hours.
Otherwise, that new 175watt Iwasaki seems to be making quite a stir...14,000K. Some are claiming that is outperforms a pheonix 14,000K...
And just to check, is the Ushio 14,000K the same as the BLV 14,000K 250wattDE? If so... it says that its PPF is about the same as a pheonix, little less actually... huh? Is that right? Just want to be sure.
E-A-G-L-E-S
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Second that...
Randall_James
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I just asked about a similar bulb and was told the Hamiltons are Ushio
Sanjay
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Gman lamps - done those. Data appeared last year sometime in advanced aquarist. I just have not had time to put it on the web site yet. I also have 3 Gman 400 coral that I am using on my tank right now for some longer term data.
New Iwasaki 15K.... done that one too a while back.
Have not been able to get the 14K Ushios from the Ushio dealers. They promise to send it and it never happens.
sanjay.
hahnmeister
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Oooooo, I just remembered two that I would love to see... The new Elos 250wattDE bulbs... they have a UV sheild built in so you dont need one on the fixture. That could be huge. It blocks all the UV-C, but lets alot of the UV-B and all the UV-A through. The spectral graph of the company looks promising as well.
http://www.eloseurope.com/index.php...ry_id=14&option=com_phpshop&Itemid=76&lang=en
Also, the Fauna-Marin 12,500K Ultra-nova. It looks like a promising bulb, and Im sure FM wouldnt mind sending you one.
http://www.eloseurope.com/index.php...ry_id=14&option=com_phpshop&Itemid=76&lang=en
Also, the Fauna-Marin 12,500K Ultra-nova. It looks like a promising bulb, and Im sure FM wouldnt mind sending you one.
Marcello Salles
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Hi Sanjay
i can not find the Reeflux results on the website.
Did you post it already ?
best
Marcello
i can not find the Reeflux results on the website.
Did you post it already ?
best
Marcello
E-A-G-L-E-S
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I have been told that a m59 will not light German/Euro bulbs such as Ushio/AB because they don't have an ignitor, but you have test results with those lamps on m59's? I ask because i run a german bulb, Hamilton 10K on my m59 currently and it lights just fine everytime and would like to try a new Ushio 14K?
hahnmeister
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Are they CWA models? Also, FWIW, the starting voltage specs on 400watt bulbs are much closer than with 250watters. Its entirely possible for a M59 to start a 400wattHQI... just not run it to spec. It might even run for a while, then shut off.
E-A-G-L-E-S
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Yes, what does that mean?
Sanjay
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The M59 CWA (Constant Wattage Autotransformer) seems to fire the 400W lamps, but they output from the lamps is lower when using some of the European lamps, since its not the right ballast for it. Apparently, they may have the right starting conditions to fire it. I would have to look at the specs on the ballast and lamp to be sure. I do not have all the ANSI and European standards, and lamp design specs. Just a couple of them.
There are more problems firing the 175W USHIO/AB with the M57 ballast.
I just test the lamp with every ballast, wether its the right one or not.
just to see what difference it makes.- Status
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