live extension cord 110 AC in reef for 24 hours

Dog boy Dave

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Yea sounds bad doesn't it? So last week i thought i would redo my canopy. I had all the parts together. Simple job, what could go wrong?
About a year ago I pulled off 2400 watts of metal halides and installed some homebuilt LED fixtures. I have a thread about them but the short and sweet is they did ok but under blue and white lamps my color was lacking. So....I saw a chinese Ebay light for $179 each. Instead of just blue and white it had multiple colored lamps and the color was phenomenal. So I ordered one , loved it and ordered two more. They work great, color and growth is as good or better than it was under halides but with all the changes my halide hood needed redone to better suit the LEDs....So i built a new hood and set up all the old lights in the new hood and installed it. All day job but the coral looked great and everyone was happy.

The next morning I went out to the tank and several of the corals were bleached almost white. The entire tank was stressed and the water was slightly cloudy. Well, these guys had been under LEDS for almost a year now. I had moved them around and turned up some intensity but surely this couldn't be from the lights? Alk and ca were normal, maybe something got dropped into the system. I was moving stuff around. So i changed 60 gallons of water and added carbon. They looked a little better but still obviously stressed and they had full polyp extension. Weird, my corals never extend much during the day as i keep large angel fish. By late afternoon the water is even cloudier and getting worse.

At 6:30 I went to lead a class at my gym and came back around 8 and the tank was looking even worse. I had looked around the tank earlier but i kept searching around the system and then i noticed a puff of smoke come out from the back side of my overflow. OMG is that an extension cord? It was, and it was hanging in the water. I pulled it out and it was crackling and fizzing, still live. I was about a foot from a titanium grounding probe that i keep in the overflow as well. The probe may have saved my system.

So its been a week. I have some before and after pics and some current as well. I will post them through the weekend after i download and process. I haven't lost any coral. Some are bleached almost white, most show no effect at all. It seems like only the brown zoantharia was affected by the AC. Apparently, my fish were not affected at all . The cloudy water was caused by one of my large carpet anemones spawning. The water got as white as milk and the anemone also spawned the following say as well. I believe the spawning was induced by the AC, but cant be sure that was the trigger. have had one of the anemones since 1995 and this is the first time it has spawned so....

In addition today i noticed all my caulerpa had crashed. I have had this particular strain of caulerpa for over ten years and it has never crashed. I believe the crash was also triggered by the AC. The effect of the AC on the algae and the zoantallia is intriguing. If the bleached corals survive, I think the after pics will be interesting.

Once again, i will post some images soon. I think all my corals will survive. IT remains to be seen if the bleached individuals will be able to recover but based on how they look a week after the event , I believe they will. I honestly think I dodged a bullet here. I think the effects would have been much worse without the grounding probe.
 
wow Dave ! I am very glad you and your corals are fine, specially you ! corals are replaceable ...

interesting about the anemone spawning ....
 
Here is a hand held image of the left side of the tank before the event. I am downloading an image i took today ...

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Here is the same coral just a couple of minutes ago. Sorry bout the quality. I am being lazy and hand holding the camera.

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It's nice to see some good news, I've always run the titanium grounding probes too, wife thought it was silly when I bought all of them. BTW that is an amazing tank.
 
Wow Dave! You've been having some bad luck in the past few months. I'm glad to see that the tank seems to not be effected really that much from such a shocking event (literally). I have the frags you sent and if you loose any I will send you replacements to help out.

Bryan
 
Those corals make it looks like you are running Zeo ;) That's nuts Dave I've had a few close calls myself with electricity and my tank. I won't ever run w/out a Ground Probe & GFCI again. I don't care what the nay-Sayers say.
 
Wow Dave! You've been having some bad luck in the past few months. I'm glad to see that the tank seems to not be effected really that much from such a shocking event (literally). I have the frags you sent and if you loose any I will send you replacements to help out.

Bryan

LOL yea, its been an interesting last year or so, in life and with the tank. Still hanging in there though so... The kids are strong. Thanks for the kind words, I dont think I am going to loose any though. I just wish I could get my lagoon on line and get some frags sent out. I still owe people a few from the orders i sent out last November. Its close.
 
not meaning to be a butthead for saying so, but if you had had all your cords plugged into a GFCI outlet, it would have tripped the outlet the second it sensed a short circuit and you would have known in an instant that you had an issue.....

that being said, I don't have mine plugged into a GFCI either but they really are life savers, both for us and our tank critters

I hope your tank makes a full recovery and the loss is minimal, it's a major bummer that your coral were doing great and looking awesome and this happened...good luck with the recovery
 
Good thoughts coming your way! I agree that they look like they will all make it!

I had a heater explode in Feb 2011 so I know the stress involved with electricity/foreign stuff and tanks. I lost a few corals for sure in my heater incident, but some made it through. Here's a link if anyone's curious what can happen when a heater explodes. Sorry for poor picture quality. :)

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1972719
 
I would do a copper test just to be sure. With the copper end in the water and all that electricity running through it there could be some leaching.
 
not meaning to be a butthead for saying so, but if you had had all your cords plugged into a GFCI outlet, it would have tripped the outlet the second it sensed a short circuit and you would have known in an instant that you had an issue.....

that being said, I don't have mine plugged into a GFCI either but they really are life savers, both for us and our tank critters

I hope your tank makes a full recovery and the loss is minimal, it's a major bummer that your coral were doing great and looking awesome and this happened...good luck with the recovery

This system has a dedicated circuit box. I have 220 wired in to power my lights and several circuits wired and dedicated to the system. While your post implied that I didn't consider it, truth is, installing the entire system as a GFI was beyond my fiscal abilities and in my opinion not worth the cost involved for the risk associated. For instance, I have installed GFI in all the outlets in my children's rooms but don't consider it necessary for all the circuits running to the system. The safe guards I have installed worked and losses are minimal. Placing a GFI on a couple of plugs is fine and doable. This system has more than 20 points to input 110 or 220 AC. Installing all circuits as GFi circuits would have been a lil bit of overkill.

The system also has 19 holes drilled below the water line, several in places where a failure could lead to all the water in the system draining out. Sometimes you just gotta look at the cost of your risk and bite the bullet.

Looks like the recovery will continue. Losses were minimal. Looks like we (my reef and I) dodged another bullet. Seems like very 6 months or so I manage to do something to almost kill all my stuff. When the systems get large and complicated, this one is, then there is always something ready to go wrong. After you learn the basics of keeping these guys alive the hard part is to maintain the systems without environmental issues affecting your corals.

In my experience more systems are lost due to mechanical and environmental errors than actually dieing due to long term sub standard conditions.


I'm intrigued by the effect on the algae after this event. The ac killed a lot of algae. Several corals that were quite brown are looking much more attractive. All my caulerpa is gone. hmmm?
 
This system has a dedicated circuit box. I have 220 wired in to power my lights and several circuits wired and dedicated to the system. While your post implied that I didn't consider it, truth is, installing the entire system as a GFI was beyond my fiscal abilities and in my opinion not worth the cost involved for the risk associated. For instance, I have installed GFI in all the outlets in my children's rooms but don't consider it necessary for all the circuits running to the system. The safe guards I have installed worked and losses are minimal. Placing a GFI on a couple of plugs is fine and doable. This system has more than 20 points to input 110 or 220 AC. Installing all circuits as GFi circuits would have been a lil bit of overkill.

The system also has 19 holes drilled below the water line, several in places where a failure could lead to all the water in the system draining out. Sometimes you just gotta look at the cost of your risk and bite the bullet.

Looks like the recovery will continue. Losses were minimal. Looks like we (my reef and I) dodged another bullet. Seems like very 6 months or so I manage to do something to almost kill all my stuff. When the systems get large and complicated, this one is, then there is always something ready to go wrong. After you learn the basics of keeping these guys alive the hard part is to maintain the systems without environmental issues affecting your corals.

In my experience more systems are lost due to mechanical and environmental errors than actually dieing due to long term sub standard conditions.


I'm intrigued by the effect on the algae after this event. The ac killed a lot of algae. Several corals that were quite brown are looking much more attractive. All my caulerpa is gone. hmmm?

you should patent that miracle algae cure now!!! jk
 
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