Looking for volunteers to clean this tank?

Dont know if this has been answered but regarding the tesselata eel:
I had on from when it was 6" until it was 18". This was only about 7 months time. They were, by far, the most aggressive and dangerous creature you could put in a tank. In my tank I had a niger trigger, clown trigger, clown grouper and a porcupine puffer. I had to get rid of the eel because his agressive nature, strength, and speed literally made it impossible for my to feed my other fish.

Pros:
Very active for an eel
Striking coloration

Cons:
Fast grower
Big appetite
Agressive towards fish (and your hands)
 
Some one had mentioned how hard moorish idols are. If you like the look try heniochus butterfly. From my experience they eat good, are active, peaceful, schooling (i know its not really schooling but they do seem to move in groups). They look a lot like idols but are much much easier to keep. Good fish if you want some movement in a large tank.
 
Ok this is one of those threads that has me shaking my head. You chose this hobby because it is difficult and takes time?

Read my sig, you are about to be that guy. Your initial list is way too ambitious imho. Hell it took me three years to find a group of 5 fish that I KNOW can get along to actually get along. Each is individual. This trigger can be mean, that same kind of trigger can be nice. You don't know until you try.

Maybe you should wade out in the water rather than jumping in the deep end with both feet?

*shrugs*

To answer one of your questions I'll say that the Blue-Throat trigger is much nicer than most of his cousins. It's what I ended up with after many attempts with alternatives. Don't let anyone tell you that Niger Triggers are "nice"...they are triggers and will start kicking butt in the tank at about 6".

For the record I'm about to put my 5 fish in a 300gallon tank and not add anything. That's right, 5 fish in a 300 gallon tank. Maybe one or two more MAX but probably not. The social dynamic changes in a tank each time you add or subtract which can have dramatic results. I have a happy peaceful tank atm after a long time of work/worry and I'm not about to mess with that.
 
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Can I ask if you've ever had a fishtank? If you truly want a big tank full of all these fish maybe you should let the pro's do it all so they are responsible for the tank and it's inhabitants...if something goes wrong it's their fault and they can deal with it.

I just think you are getting in WAY over your head in a big hurry. Hate to see really nice fish have to go through some noob human's growing pains. No offense. You saying that you can live with a bunch of fish dying because you are making mistakes and learning how it all works kind of rubs me the wrong way actually, I won't lie.

Most people around here don't think like that and will spend lots of money just to try and save one fish that is sick. You sound more like a spear-fisherman than a SW tank keeper to me.
 
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My 1000 gallon fish only never had anywhere near that many fish!

As others have pointed out, loots of incompatabilities there.

Sounds like one to be left to the pros, not a good learning curve to start out with a tank like that.
 
He didn't say that he wants to through all these in a 300gal. He said these are the fish he was interested in and what did people think of them. Maybe instead of trashing him you should offer some constructive input instead of just telling him to pay someone who knows what they are doing. Everyone has to start somewhere.
 
smellzlikefish said:
Thanks for the advice, Obviously I need it!!, That's why I am asking the questions.

Good point about "GRAZERS", just goes to show you that even after weeks of research and reading posts, some of the most obvious points can be overlooked, if you don't know any better.

Regarding the feeding needs, I have lots of staff and people around that I can train to help me with the feeding.

That's too bad to hear about the meyers butterfly. They are my favorite looking butterfly.

I wonder if that's why its hard to find info about keeping these fish.

I was thinking to have 6 of them because of their small size, I was thinking that they would add move movement to the tank.

When you mentioned that because there was six of them, their chances decrease even more, is that because there is simply more of them for the other fish to eat?

Can you recommend any other smaller / medium sized fish, that I could consider for this tank? again, im looking for movement with-in the tank.

I read some posts about giant hawkfish and their appetite. I thought that would be better for this tank. Having a fish that could defend itself. I would hate to loose some of the more exotic fish to the hawkfish, hopefully someone will tell me their personal experiences with these fish.

Thanks again for your advice, I am already excited, and my tank hasn't even been built yet. haha.
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In reference to the Meyers Butterflies, the reason I said they'd almost certainly die is because they apparently do so poorly in captivity. If you were to get a bunch of them with the intention of keeping a group of 6, you would probably be lucky to end up with 1. Keep in mind this is only from what I have read about them and what I was told when I asked. I have never personally attempted them since I was advised not to and I would rather not attempt fish deemed to be unsuitable for a life in captivity.

I know they aren't nearly as nice looking, but depending on the rest of your stocking choices you could do a group of Pyramid butterflies (Hemitaurichthys polylepis). They would add a lot of movement to your tank, and would not be as small as something like a group of anthias (which would my other suggestion if you went with a less aggressive stocking list).

If you end up getting the hawkfish definitely keep us posted. I think it's an amazing looking fish and I'd love to see one in someone's tank on RC.
 
jinks said:
He didn't say that he wants to through all these in a 300gal. He said these are the fish he was interested in and what did people think of them. Maybe instead of trashing him you should offer some constructive input instead of just telling him to pay someone who knows what they are doing. Everyone has to start somewhere.
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Yes and I suggest a FW tank if he's never had a fishtank. Maybe a nice African Cichlid tank. Do a central or south american cichlid tank...The OP is talking about already becoming frustrated about the amount of research required and they don't even have the tank up and running yet. Imagine the future...I'm just sayin'. I apologize if I sound harsh, I just think some people around here are a bit more passive in how they go about their business. Politely not saying what they are thinking. I guess I'm just not that kind of guy.

Let me ask you this, in all your time scubadiving around your area have you ever seen all those fish together in an area 6ftX3ftX3ft?

These fish are used to the ocean. They need a little space/territory. I wish I could pop on my fins/mask and go snorkeling everyday. I wouldn't have a SW fishtank that is for sure.



*shrugs* Sorry I shouldn't have posted but I was tired and feeling a little sympathetic towards the fish.
 
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Ok a scorpionfish species tank would be awesome, I must admit. I also think that you can do it. Great choice in the end.
 
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