Reefpilot11
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Wow, that is one of the most beautiful milli colonies I've seen. Purple and blue milli?
losing acros, little help
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listen2bob
- David
Ora blue and Ora Scripps
nitr8
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I have been having the same issue with two of my frags recently (couldn't imagine it on your scale with colonies). Not really sure what happened just one day all the tips on one of my acros were missing tissue, no skeletal damage and the next day another acro looked the same. So I will be following along. The only thing I can think is I've been playing with my CA reactor quite a bit for the past couple months trying to tune it in. Do you think these ALK swings could have had something to do with it? Is this enough of a difference to be considered an ALK swing? How's you ALK stability?
7/13: 434, 8.3
7/20: 450, 8.8
7/30: 428, 9.7
8/2: 9.1
8/9: 449, 9.1
8/13: 479, 8.9
8/18: 461, 9.2
8/27: 463, 10
8/29: 9.4
8/31: 470, 9.4
9/5: 434, 9.4
I just fed the tank a few minutes ago so after a couple hours I'll test these again and see where I'm at but ALK seems to have stabilized at 9.4 while calcium has always been pretty good.
Sorry if I hijacked just thought our dilemmas might be related.
7/13: 434, 8.3
7/20: 450, 8.8
7/30: 428, 9.7
8/2: 9.1
8/9: 449, 9.1
8/13: 479, 8.9
8/18: 461, 9.2
8/27: 463, 10
8/29: 9.4
8/31: 470, 9.4
9/5: 434, 9.4
I just fed the tank a few minutes ago so after a couple hours I'll test these again and see where I'm at but ALK seems to have stabilized at 9.4 while calcium has always been pretty good.
Sorry if I hijacked just thought our dilemmas might be related.
listen2bob
- David
Not sure how big of a swing it takes. Mine has been pretty stable for a long time.
rogergolf66
im an addict lol
Sorry to hear that. As far as fish go fox face but they normally have appetite for zoa and pally not sps
snake1
Premium Member
You are probably right.... I just noticed a new water company has taken over my area and now my water smells like chlorine and it never did for the 9 years i have been there I hope I don't start having issues....
listen2bob
- David
This was one of my thoughts and worries. I have been putting some of the tap water conditioner in my top off and water change water just in case some is getting through
listen2bob
- David
Probably
Dave,
I would be seeing some of the same issues. I do not use chloramine removing carbon blocks for my RO.
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-11/rhf/feature/
Regards,
Z
I would be seeing some of the same issues. I do not use chloramine removing carbon blocks for my RO.
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-11/rhf/feature/
Regards,
Z
ichthyman
Active member
Yep
You're much better off checking for chlorine/chloramine in your product water and servicing the RO/DI if present. The products containing just thiosulfate can't bind ammonia if present from Chloramine usage. Conditioners which can bind ammonia do so with a chemical called hydroxymethanesulfonate which for a time decomposes into formaldehyde and then aminomethanesulfonate. While probably not the source of your woes, exposure to formaldehyde while already stressed is not a wise idea.
Ted_C
Active member
And another point - chloramine blocks do not help (if they ever help is a subject up for debate) us in this time when the water company switches to chlorine. Normal carbon blocks / RO membranes should be all that is needed during this time to remove the chlorine from our water.
I'm unsure what the cause / effect is here - as the switch to chlorine should be more benign than a switch over to chloramines. I can't think of a single chemical / biological mechanism where switch FROM Chloramines TO chlorine would be detrimental. Unless it's hypchlorite or something similar getting through the home ro/di system.
Is the chlorine getting into the carbon blocks and releasing the absorbed ammonia that was broken up during chloramine use - maybe because of a change in the source water pH?
I really don't know what's happening here - if it's mere coincidence or if there is truly an issue.
I'm unsure what the cause / effect is here - as the switch to chlorine should be more benign than a switch over to chloramines. I can't think of a single chemical / biological mechanism where switch FROM Chloramines TO chlorine would be detrimental. Unless it's hypchlorite or something similar getting through the home ro/di system.
Is the chlorine getting into the carbon blocks and releasing the absorbed ammonia that was broken up during chloramine use - maybe because of a change in the source water pH?
I really don't know what's happening here - if it's mere coincidence or if there is truly an issue.
listen2bob
- David
I would think if it was a chlorine chloramine switch then other corals, montis, birdsnest would show issues. I still think it is one of the rat ba$tards in the tank.
I fully understand why the water company switches back and forth as it was a focus of a class last year.
I fully understand why the water company switches back and forth as it was a focus of a class last year.
Ted_C
Active member
no it doesn't - not by itself - but any number of other things could. Its not just looking at the chlorine in the water - it's the effect the chlorine water treatment has on the RO/DI system in total.
Does it cause the release of ammonia from the DI resin / carbon blocks due to pH changes? Possibly
What is "chlorine" treatment in the water supply? is it just dissolved Cl2 gas? What happens when you dissolve Cl2 gas in water? Some of it forms HCl (muriatic acid), some of it forms perchlorates (Bleach), who knows what else it could form (Chlorofluro's)? How do these chlorine species perform in a home RO/DI system?
Why is not everyone affected? another good question that has no answers. Why do we not see issues with LFS water (or LFS systems)?
I would also agree Bob- its more likely some pest or issue is bothering your corals - especially if it's localized to one species or one area of the tank,
Does it cause the release of ammonia from the DI resin / carbon blocks due to pH changes? Possibly
What is "chlorine" treatment in the water supply? is it just dissolved Cl2 gas? What happens when you dissolve Cl2 gas in water? Some of it forms HCl (muriatic acid), some of it forms perchlorates (Bleach), who knows what else it could form (Chlorofluro's)? How do these chlorine species perform in a home RO/DI system?
Why is not everyone affected? another good question that has no answers. Why do we not see issues with LFS water (or LFS systems)?
I would also agree Bob- its more likely some pest or issue is bothering your corals - especially if it's localized to one species or one area of the tank,
