Lost most of my fish!!!

[Rdr4evr69]

WOW, what a sad day!!! SO Sunday (31st) about 3:30 I do my weekly 10G water change, dong everything as I always do. I took out 10 and put 10 in and my Lemon peel starts laying on the bottom, then my 1 eyed Flame angel starts acting funny, then my Fox Face is missing.....and so on..... my water was only 1 Degree off tanks water and I checked the levels on my tank before the change and the replacement water all good..... So all in all I lost my Lemon Peel and Flame that I have had for over 3 years, my fox face that i have had for 2 years, my vlamingi Tang that i have had a year, my sand perch, 2 green chromis. My CBS that i have had for 3 years is alive but barely moving. SO all i have left is a common clown that i have had for 4 years and my maroon that i have had for 6 months or so. My corals are fine, my pistol shrimp is fine..... All this jsut makes no sence!!!!!! Any Ideas????

It sucked because aquatic enviro. was closed. Luckily Alex, one of the owners lives 3 houses down from me and is my friend so we went and got 5 more jugs of water to try to get whatever I put in the tank out. It didnt help in the end but it was a good effort....
Happy freekin New Year!!!!!

 

[Sk8r]

Contamination of some kind, I'm betting...a cleaner, aromatherapy, etc, a contaminated measuring cup...

So, so sorry. What a wretched new year surprise!

 

[lllosingit]

Sorry to hear about your loss.
Did you change salts, add anything to the freshly mixed water?
Anything different than the norm?
Sounds like a contamination of some sort.
I can't see where where PH or temp would be a factor with such a small water change.
Could your container have been contaminated-soap, lysol, pesticide anything kept stored near it?
Was it a new container of salt?

 

[tibbs2]

Like the other said, probably a chemical contamination.

I dump 5 gallons of 68 degree topoff water into my 80 degree tank every couple days and I've had no trouble with that.

 

[Rdr4evr69]

I use the same containers every week, no cleaners have been used in my basement, my wife is allergic to cleaning, not cleaners, jsut cleaning...lol I have no Idea, my top off is usually a couple degrees cool, so i see in no way how it is different than any other week. I pre mixed water from aquatic enviro, and if it had been bad they would have had quite a few calls, so i dont bleam them either....its a mystery to me.....

 

[jbrunken]

What type of lighting do you have? If it's Metal Halide, is it possible that one of the bulbs cracked or the UV shield is broken? It is possible that the timing with the water change was just a coincidence.

-JB

 

[Rdr4evr69]

Lights are fine, well they all work fine that is??? It was within 5 minutes of the water change that things went nasty so i dunno, I have 2 150HQI's and 2 96 PC's over the tank they all look normal, and my last 3 fish are just fine.....who knows?? I am trying to decide to stay reef or change over to agressive now????

 

[got2lb]

Usually when it's a bad bulb it's usually the corals that end up taking a beating not the fish.

 

[Covey]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8880609#post8880609 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rdr4evr69
I use the same containers every week, no cleaners have been used in my basement, my wife is allergic to cleaning, not cleaners, jsut cleaning...lol I have no Idea, my top off is usually a couple degrees cool, so i see in no way how it is different than any other week. I pre mixed water from aquatic enviro, and if it had been bad they would have had quite a few calls, so i dont bleam them either....its a mystery to me.....

Hate to say it but when I asked AE what salt they use for there premix stuff they said "Whatever's is cheapiest that they can get in bulk. IO, Red Sea, OceanPure" some brand I never heard of."

You switch brands without knowing it which I never thought was a good idea.

Did you check the salinity of the premix?

 

[leeweber85]

The only thing I could think of is your salinity or PH being FAR off. Unless maybe you cracked a heater or something like that. Sorry about the loss. I imagine it sucks to lose fish you've had for quite awhile.

 

[lllosingit]

You can rule out salinity swing, even if he took out half the water and replaced it with fresh water only, the fish would be fine as long as the temp didn't drop to much.
The only way the PH could swing that much with a 10 gallon change on a 90 gallon system would be if the water had a very very high PH, even then I would think the corals and Pistol shrimp would bite the dust before the fish did.
It had to be some kind of contamination otherwise the corals and inverts would have bit the dust too.

 

[KnoxvilleIa]

monitors

monitors

Does any one make a monitor that warns if stray electricty
is present.
I lost fish due to that. ( bad heater)
at least I would of know it. I never was shocked untill I put a knee
into a wet carpet and touched the sump.
you would think some cemical that was stong enufgh to kill with in minutes would of cleaned the tank with in a hour ??
the only survivor was a bottom dweller an eel.
did the heater go into the air?? over heat and burn a hole ?

 

[Rdr4evr69]

A contaminent is the only thing I can think of, but i have no way of knowing what it was, and how it got there. The heater is fine never got dry, it is in my sump and always had at least 3 inches of water over it. If it was malfunctioning and letting stray electricity out I would think all my tank would have died, and it was jsut too strange of thing to happen at that exact instant. Its a good heater, i think, its the metal one with another cord that picks up the temp, and its digital, sorry I dont remember the brand. I just wish I knew what happened, so i could say, "well dont do that again" or "oops i fkd up" I think I would feel better that way. My last 3 fish are still fine, a sand star fine, a brittle star fine, pistol, and hermits fine too....

 

[tibbs2]

Re: monitors

Re: monitors

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8883067#post8883067 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KnoxvilleIa
Does any one make a monitor that warns if stray electricty
is present.
I lost fish due to that. ( bad heater)
at least I would of know it. I never was shocked untill I put a knee
into a wet carpet and touched the sump.
you would think some cemical that was stong enufgh to kill with in minutes would of cleaned the tank with in a hour ??
the only survivor was a bottom dweller an eel.
did the heater go into the air?? over heat and burn a hole ?

I do believe there is a tool that does that.

I would plug all your tank components into a GFCI. One time I had a cut in a wire in one of my pumps and it immediately cut power to the tank and saved me and my fish a nice shock.

As far as the water issue...

Like Covey said, you probably had a contaminant in your premixed water. Maybe they were windexing the glass near your water, maybe someone put their hand in the water without washing their hands thoroughly first. Maybe someone made your saltwater out of 2 or 3 different leftover saltmixes. Having someone else mix your water introduces an unknown element that is not under your control.

Chris

 

[sohotang]

lpst fish

lpst fish

the last few times i have done a water change i lose fish, i think that when i pull out the hair algae or when i clean off the toadstools one of my softies must put out a toxin, the only thing we have added in the last 6 months is the toadstool, i have always changed the water the same way and have never had a problem until i put in the toadstool leather.

 

[sohotang]

ps

ps

i have 2 other tanks and mix the water the same for all 3, just the 1 tank has an algae problem and a toadstool leather.