Mandarin Goby

willyreef

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I have a 54 Gal. corner tank with about 50 Lbs live rock. My tank has been going great for 2 years now. I have 2 clowns, royal gramma, yellow tang and flame angle. I would like to get a blue mandarin goby. I know they need live food from the rock. Will 50 lbs be enough to support a mandarin? When i set the tank up I added about 5 lbs of live sand as well. I dont want to get one only to have it starve. Should i give it a try? Any opinions would be great.

Thank you,

Willyreef
 
how many copepods do you see swimming around? It sounds like you should be good to get one, but it all depends on if you have a good pod population for it. Do you have a refugium?
 
On a tank that mature you should get away with one. Though a refugium would help alot in keeping the fish in top shape, even if its just a hang on type.

mark
 
if u don't have a 'fuge, you'll probably need somewhere for the pods to be able to seek safety, such as rock rubble or a strawberry basket thing, so down the road the whole population isn't eatin
 
Since Mandarin's eat live food from live rock, how do you quarantine these fish before they go into the main tank?
This may be a silly question.

Willy
 
This is the one time I would break the QT rule. During acclimation I would administer formalin or maracyn II. put an airstone in the acclimation bucket and let him sit in there for a while. mandarins have a very thick slime coat and have a pretty good resistance to disease, not impervious though. pick one out that is actively looking for food and is aware of it's surroundings. If you can watch it swim for a while and try to see if it has a shrunken belly. They should be fat, if it does look emaciated dont get it. A lot of fish at this point are beyond help and wont do well.
 
Acclimate or dip? i.e. formalin and maracyn II in fresh R/O or salt water?
Jon
ps any cool herps that you currently own?
 
They're ich-resistent. They may scare you a bit by festooning themselves with slime and dots of aragonite, but they lie.
You can get pods online, and be prepared to fortify your population with bought supplements if you take on one of these fish. They're constant eaters. Your front glass should show something like dandruff that skips about. If you're raising pods it helps not to be too pristine in your tank: they eat algae.
 
i have a 24g with about 30lb live rock in the tank and about 1 to 2 in the refuge. i do have a very heavy pod population, all over my sps, rocks, sand bed and tank. the refuge is covered with them and want to get a mandarin. sound i not?
 
i have a 24g with about 30lb live rock in the tank and about 1 to 2 in the refuge. i do have a very heavy pod population, all over my sps, rocks, sand bed and tank. the refuge is covered with them and want to get a mandarin. sound i not?



a mandarin would clear out a 30 in no time
 
You would have to provide a copepod refuge either in the tank or in a refugium. (a strawberry box of rock and sand turned over on the tank floor) You could, but you might well end up having to supplement your mandarin's food endlessly. As I understand it, copepods breed where rock meets the sand, and they eat algae. The more you can supply those conditions, the better. The problem is, almost all nanofish eat pods, and become competitors for the only food the mandarin will eat.
 
I guess I am lucky, or an abuser. My Mandarin will eat flake and or frozen, as well as pods. I have had him for over two years, he is still going strong
 
every fish is different

every fish is different

I've had a mandarin in a 29gl. and not only did it survive, it thrived. Now I have a 40 gal. breeder.(great reef tank, short and wide.) I have a male and waiting to order pods to get a female. I plan to gut the tiger pods in my fuge and let them breed for a bit first. As soon as I get my sump i'll be making a fug that's almost as long as my tank, prolly around 26". I'm sure I'm gonna catch alot of flake for this post, but I've had alot of sucess in the past. And I do work at a pet store, so if it goes bad I can take the female back to a good home. I think as long as your fuge is breeding pods and your tank has a good population, you'll be fine with one.
 
I have a Green Mandarin (Synchiropus splendidus) in my nearly 3 year old 37 g mixed reef tank... lots of LR but who knows how many (or how few) copepods are crawling on the rocks? After trying several different types of foods, I found that the Mandarin loves small, frozen mysis shrimp. Think twice before you consider buying copepods (see below).

There are several brands of frozen mysis shrimp. Not all brands will work, because some provide shrimp that are too large for a Mandarin's small mouth. Some brands offer very small and fairly uniform sized mysis. If you try one of those - such as the ones sold under the Hikari brand, you might have as much success as I've had. These 1/4 inch or smaller size shrimp are white (just like copepods) and are readily accepted and relished by my Mandarin.

You may be able to find even smaller ones. Do an internet search for both Mysis Shrimp and Sea Horses. Many folks successfully feed Sea Horses small Mysis shrimp - and if they are small enough for Sea Horses, they are small enough for Mandarins - although that does not guarantee that the Mandarin will eat them.

You can buy copepods from several reliable internet sites, but unless you want to raise them, you'll spend $20 to $30 a pop (plus shipping) each time you feed your Mandarin - not too cool. I bought over $100 worth of those little nothings - 4 different sizes, including "Tiger Pods" - and raised them in a 5 g pod breeding tank. Remember, copepods are tiny - just barley large enough to see with the naked eye. A Mandarin must consume hundreds of pods each day to sustain itself... even "Tiger Pods" are tiny.

If you are willing to raise pods (an easy thing to do btw... although it eventually becomes a chore), keep in mind that it takes 3 - 4 weeks before they reproduce in sufficient numbers to take a bunch from a 5 or 10 gallon breeding container and put them in the main tank.

As for relying on a small refugium to yield sufficient pod populations, I am convinced that the concept sounds better than it works. Ok... OK... if you have a 40 gallon fuge with lots of LR in it, you'll have a lot of pods growing in the fuge... but we are talking about small systems here.

I dumped a couple of bottles (one of Tiger Pods and one of three miniscule varieties of copepods) into my 10 g refugium. Can I see any pods in the fuge? On occasion I see a few... but large numbers of pods in the fuge., there ain't.

It's far easier to feed a mandarin tiny, frozen mysis shrimp.
 
Got that

Got that

I've already got mine eating frozen foods. He eats pretty much anything i put in the tank. But he really loves the frozen mysid and brine. I'm willing to try the big fuge. If it donesn't work at least I'll have a really big fuge for later systems.
 
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