Marine Velvet (oodinium) Questions

[beanman]

I recently have been battling an Oodinium outbreak. My question is does it affect Starfish? I had a big brittle starfish (about 8" around when out of his rock) that was always in the same hole in a rock that I cannot find. He is big enough that he does not have many places to hide in my tank.

It will bum me out if he is gone as I am bummed about all of the fish I have lost so far from this parasite...:sad2:

 

[sleepydoc]

To my knowledge, no. I believe velvet is an obligate fish parasite.

 

[MrTuskfish]

The starfish will be fine, how are you treating the velvet? It must be treated with copper in a HT/QT and your main tank left fishless for about 8 weeks.

 

[beanman]

I have been feeding Garlic Guard and Para Guard, Metronidazol and focus, and Ich Attack for the last 2 weeks. The fish that are still alive are looking great. I am going to also try some Fishvet Revive.
The fish in my tank are too fast to catch without emptying the tank to catch them. If they don't look great after the revive treatments then I will have no choice but to take them out and put them in QT with copper.

I have also learned my lesson from this adventure and will QT everything that I bring home for my tank.

 

[MrTuskfish]

This just doesn't sound like velvet; but without much to go on, I'll assume you're convinced that's what it is. Do you have any pics, or at least a good description?

Fishvet Revive will kill all of your corals and inverts. It contains formalin (formaldehyde) that may help velvet, but I doubt it. There is absolutely nothing I've ever heard of that will kill velvet and not kill corals. You're tossing a lot of meds at this problem and none that will kill velvet. You have antibiotics, Ich Attack (worthless) and other meds that could easily combine with other meds to form something very toxic.

What am i missing here???

 

[beanman]

This just doesn't sound like velvet; but without much to go on, I'll assume you're convinced that's what it is. Do you have any pics, or at least a good description?

Fishvet Revive will kill all of your corals and inverts. It contains formalin (formaldehyde) that may help velvet, but I doubt it. There is absolutely nothing I've ever heard of that will kill velvet and not kill corals. You're tossing a lot of meds at this problem and none that will kill velvet. You have antibiotics, Ich Attack (worthless) and other meds that could easily combine with other meds to form something very toxic.

What am i missing here???

I will try to describe the symptoms the best I can.
All of the fish that have died did the same thing, started losing color and getting pale, heavy breathing and trying to breath at the top of the tank and in front of the fans/pumps, flashing and scraping against stuff, white spots on there body's and fins, hiding in dark spots and a thin fuzzy film on the fish body.
I hope that helps.

As far as revive, everything I read about it says it is reef/coral and invertebrate safe? Is that wrong? I don't want to kill anything else.

 

[beanman]

I did at least find my brittle star

 

[MrTuskfish]

I will try to describe the symptoms the best I can.
All of the fish that have died did the same thing, started losing color and getting pale, heavy breathing and trying to breath at the top of the tank and in front of the fans/pumps, flashing and scraping against stuff, white spots on there body's and fins, hiding in dark spots and a thin fuzzy film on the fish body.
I hope that helps.

As far as revive, everything I read about it says it is reef/coral and invertebrate safe? Is that wrong? I don't want to kill anything else.

There is no such thing as a med that will kill protozoan parasites (ich, brook, velvet, etc. ) and not kill coral and other inverts. If it doesn't kill the corals, it won't kill the parasites. Finding such a med would be cause for celebration; its the Holy Grail of fish medications. If something is advertised as "reef safe", it is worthless as a parasite cure. I know of no reputable source that claims to know of a reef safe ich/velvet/brooklynella cure.