Matt's 5000ltr Display
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d3hree
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A plus point of the fibre glass route is that I can have more tank than the viewing panel shows.
I like the idea of fish swimming into view from the left or right, also the sand bed will be well away from the glass.
I have allowed for 12" of tank below the glass so could have a 6" DSB in the tank and still have 6" of clearance before the glass....no more algae build up that is difficult to scrape off!
I like the idea of fish swimming into view from the left or right, also the sand bed will be well away from the glass.
I have allowed for 12" of tank below the glass so could have a 6" DSB in the tank and still have 6" of clearance before the glass....no more algae build up that is difficult to scrape off!
d3hree
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Filtration
Filtration
My proposed filtration might take a little explaining, I hope the drawings help but as things have altered a little from the time of drawing them they may get a little confusing.
This view shows inside the extension I had built to join the garage with the house. This is the first section of the filtration.
There will be 3 x 63 mm drains from the tank, one of which will gravity feed a deltec 3070 skimmer.
The other two pipes will feed into a 600ltr plastic vat ( similar sort of affair to what I have seen you boys and girls do with rubbermaids)
The first 600ltr vat will be a sort of sediment tank. There will be 300 micron filter socks that the pipes will drain into.
As you can see from the drawing this vat can be isolated. i will be able to drain it via a ball valve under its base, refill will fresh RO, heat and salt and then add it back onto the system. This will be how I foresee me doing water changes.
Filtration
My proposed filtration might take a little explaining, I hope the drawings help but as things have altered a little from the time of drawing them they may get a little confusing.
This view shows inside the extension I had built to join the garage with the house. This is the first section of the filtration.
There will be 3 x 63 mm drains from the tank, one of which will gravity feed a deltec 3070 skimmer.
The other two pipes will feed into a 600ltr plastic vat ( similar sort of affair to what I have seen you boys and girls do with rubbermaids)
The first 600ltr vat will be a sort of sediment tank. There will be 300 micron filter socks that the pipes will drain into.
As you can see from the drawing this vat can be isolated. i will be able to drain it via a ball valve under its base, refill will fresh RO, heat and salt and then add it back onto the system. This will be how I foresee me doing water changes.
d3hree
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Looking back towards the rest of the filtration.
After the sediment tank some of the flow will break off to a 500ltr glass tank which will be home for an algae turf scrubber.
The rest of the flow will continue to the next 600ltr vat that will be a cryptic zone.
The cryptic zone will have bulkheads that will feed a deltec nitrate reactor, calcium reactor and phosphate reactor. All the reactors will feed into the 600ltr vat below the cryptic zone.
Following on from the cryptic zone will be a series of small glass tanks that will be breeder and frag tanks.
d3hree
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The cryptic tank and breeder and frag tanks aswell as the reactors will feed into the 600ltr DSB vat. The DSB flow will pass the 400ltr RO top up that will feed a kalk stirrer (blue vat in the drawings) and into the 600ltr return section.
The return pump will be a 16000lph laguna pump and before returning to the display will pass through a 400w UV and a TMC commercial filter canister
Pic of the UV.
The filtration will terminate as a calfo loop on the display tank
The return pump will be a 16000lph laguna pump and before returning to the display will pass through a 400w UV and a TMC commercial filter canister
Pic of the UV.
The filtration will terminate as a calfo loop on the display tank
Powederblue
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incredible work.
d3hree
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In tank dimensions will be 111" x 52" x 52"
I will dig out some older drawings to hopefully better explain the support systems.
d3hree
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This pic is of an older arrangement but you can see the gravity fed Deltec Skimmer. I initially thought I would gravity feed it from the sediment tank, however i will be directly feeding it from the tank now. The 3070 requires about 6000lph.
This image also shows the 400w UV and how the CL pumps will be raised to reduce the amount of vertical head.
You can also make out a filter sock in the return vat (lowest one) that the deltec will return through. This sock will have carbon in it. There will be ozone fed to the skimmer so the carbon will be used to remove any O3 remaining in the water from the skimmer.
This image also shows the 400w UV and how the CL pumps will be raised to reduce the amount of vertical head.
You can also make out a filter sock in the return vat (lowest one) that the deltec will return through. This sock will have carbon in it. There will be ozone fed to the skimmer so the carbon will be used to remove any O3 remaining in the water from the skimmer.
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d3hree
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Again an older arrangement but this image shows how the deltec reactors are to be fed from a vat. There will be 3 reactors fed this way, Calcium, Nitrate and phosphate.
I would like to gravity feed them but I suspect that i will be adding pumps on the inside of the vat to ensure each reactor has the specified flow.
I would like to gravity feed them but I suspect that i will be adding pumps on the inside of the vat to ensure each reactor has the specified flow.
d3hree
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This image shows how the flow from the vats on the top level will be controlled down to the lower level. There will be an internal standpipe arrangement on the vat at the end of the upper level that will control its water height and the flow down to the lower vat. On the event of a powercut there wont be too much water draining down to the lower vats.
d3hree
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One thing I havent mentioned yet is the 300-400ltr surge.
I havent yet decided on the actual volume of the surge and this can be tweaked and fine tuned after it has been set up. I worked out roughly that a 300ltr surge will raise the water level by approximately 2"
Whilst I am a fan of surges and the random flow they generate I hate the idea of the toilet flush noise or the immense amount of bubbles they create.
Therefore I decided to try and build a silent bubble free surge using an actuated ball valve, a couple of float switches and a solenoid, relay etc.
The surge tank will be approximately 4ft above the display water level and will use 2" plumbing to hopefully provide a good surge...time will tell.
This is the 2" actuated ball valve.
I havent yet decided on the actual volume of the surge and this can be tweaked and fine tuned after it has been set up. I worked out roughly that a 300ltr surge will raise the water level by approximately 2"
Whilst I am a fan of surges and the random flow they generate I hate the idea of the toilet flush noise or the immense amount of bubbles they create.
Therefore I decided to try and build a silent bubble free surge using an actuated ball valve, a couple of float switches and a solenoid, relay etc.
The surge tank will be approximately 4ft above the display water level and will use 2" plumbing to hopefully provide a good surge...time will tell.
This is the 2" actuated ball valve.
d3hree
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gary.jennings
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This systems going to be amazing. Where abouts are you based in the u.k? if youre near Surrey and need any manual labour give me a shout.
d3hree
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Thanks for the kind words guys
A little far from you Gary in Lancashire. Thankyou very much for your kind offer though, keep watching and you are more than welcome to visit if you are ever nearby.
A little far from you Gary in Lancashire. Thankyou very much for your kind offer though, keep watching and you are more than welcome to visit if you are ever nearby.
d3hree
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Lighting!!!
Lighting!!!
Did I mention that I kept changing my mind about the lighting?
The lights I am going to use have always been MH and I would always go with t5 suppliment, more than likely KZ tubes, blues and purples.
However how to design a light rack that suited my requirements was a puzzle and to be honest I still am unsure on how to do it.
This is another design I came up with. Having these brackets custom made will cost approximately $900 for both.
They will be able to move vertically over about 18" to raise and lower them from the water.
They can slide from front to back to position the lights differently.
They will be able to swing clear of the tank for replacing bulbs and to clear access to the tank for maintenance.
Here is a short rough animation of how they would work.
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Lighting!!!
Did I mention that I kept changing my mind about the lighting?
The lights I am going to use have always been MH and I would always go with t5 suppliment, more than likely KZ tubes, blues and purples.
However how to design a light rack that suited my requirements was a puzzle and to be honest I still am unsure on how to do it.
This is another design I came up with. Having these brackets custom made will cost approximately $900 for both.
They will be able to move vertically over about 18" to raise and lower them from the water.
They can slide from front to back to position the lights differently.
They will be able to swing clear of the tank for replacing bulbs and to clear access to the tank for maintenance.
Here is a short rough animation of how they would work.
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