Maxspect Razor

[StaySalty]

Glad to see that this thread is still alive. I am getting a Maxspect this friday and have a question. I am getting the 20.5" 120 used. Is this the same model that you guys are running or is the one on Marine Depot now an upgraded unit?

I jsut checked Marine Depot and it doesn't look like there's been any changes to the 4 main models (20 in and 27 in 10k and 16k models). They did release a larger 36 in unit that has 4 LED pads. I think it only comes in 16k. Other than that, they did release 120 degree optics that you can replace the standard 90 degree optics with.

 

[dburt520]

Can someone give me some setting guidelines on the 160w 27" fixture, mounted on the "legs" over a 40b.

Sps dominated tank, and I like a bluer look. I have been using the following for 3 months and I'm not real happy with coral color or growth, although aesthetically the light and settings look great.

Light timer on at 9:30
1 10:00 A0% B1%
2 11:00 A35% B55%
3 12:30 A55% B80%
4 19:30 A55% B80%
5 21:00 A35% B55%
6 22:00 A0% B1%
Light timer off at 22:30

I have a moon light module so I turn the lights completely off from 22:30 until 9:30 and let the lunar moonlights do their thing.

I am in the market for the 120 degree lenses as I do have some shadows on each end of my tank, however they are on back order.

Thanks
Dave

 

[mavjoy]

^^^ bump up the numbers. Maybe make it 80 and 100 for your peak time. I haven't put much SPS in my tank, so I can't comment on that. My zoas are doing great

 

[Sacredwrites]

New Maxspect razor r420r 22 inch 120w 16,000k on 29 Gal.

New Maxspect razor r420r 22 inch 120w 16,000k on 29 Gal.

This picture is taken pretty late in the evening, but I really like my new light. I have had it for four days on my 6 month old 29 gallon. Added my first frags same day so it just got real. LOL Be interested in hearing more about people's set-points. I got the oddest advice from the manager where I purchased the light. He told me to start these new frags to a coral-less tank at 5%. That can't be right. These frags were under the exact same light in the store so why would he suggest that? My girlfriend thinks it's because he overlooked that I had no coral or no serious reef light to acclimate the light too. I did not take the advice, and have my max set point for a couple hours at 45% white 55% blue. The new frog spawn's and zoanthids seem to be doing fine, but set tomorrow with an increased max to 60% W/65% B. Any advice would be helpful.



29 Gal. Maxspect Razor r420r 120 Watt 16,000k light, Aquatop cf400-UV canister filter, Fluval C2 HOB filter, approx. 26 lbs live rock, crush coral substrate 15 lbs., NEW-(Two frogspawn frags, one zoanthid frag), Turbo snail, Emerald crab, Blue legged Hermit crab, 2-Narcissus snails, Astrea snail, Cerinth snail, Blue damsel, four stripe damsel, and Firefish

 

[myram]

How high off the water are people running these lights?

If I get one of these units, I'm going to put on the 120 optics, and have it mounted around 8" off the water inside a canopy.

But I keep hearing rumors of new versions coming out, so I may hold off until I see what comes down the tracks.

 

[AdamNC]

I've had mine for about a week now and I'm using the legs it came with, 8" I think. Still using the manual mode til I get around to messing with the auto feature. Instead of shocking with 5% increase a week, I'm doing 1% a day. I started at 30% and I'm up to 36% as of this morning. Having only a 29 gallon standard the 160w 16k is way more then enough for anything you may want to keep. I've noticed also that I have no shadows on the sides due to the extra led puck. I'll probably only max it out at about 60% I'm guessing until I move up to a bigger tank, but that was the whole reason for buying the 160w over the 120w.

Right now at 36% blue and white everything seems to be happy. Acro and birdsnest up top, monti plate and zoas in the middle, and frogspawn and kenya tree on the bottom near the sand (one on each side of the tank in the front corners).

 

[myram]

Yeah, I found another thread where the legs were listed at 8"............so that would be perfect for me.

 

[bundybass]

could someone recommend what/how many fixtures for a 220 gal 6' tank with 2 braces. Would the braces block too much light from 2 of the 160 fixtures? And would 2 of these be enough or do i need to do 3 of the 120s

 

[sean2sean]

could someone recommend what/how many fixtures for a 220 gal 6' tank with 2 braces. Would the braces block too much light from 2 of the 160 fixtures? And would 2 of these be enough or do i need to do 3 of the 120s

i have 5 120 watt over my 225 gallon. and its 6 ft long.

 

[mtlreeffreak]

i have 5 120 watt over my 225 gallon. and its 6 ft long.

wow thats a nice tank!

 

[zibba]

could someone recommend what/how many fixtures for a 220 gal 6' tank with 2 braces. Would the braces block too much light from 2 of the 160 fixtures? And would 2 of these be enough or do i need to do 3 of the 120s

I'm very happy with this fixture over our smaller tank but I'd consider a different fixture for that size tank. You'll need too many and, in my experience, you'll want something that can penetrate a bit deeper.

If you're set on LEDs, 3xHydra56 or 3xRadions would be a better option than 5x27" Rzr fixtures or 2x43.5" Rzr fixtures. It's more cost effective, you'll have more control and you'll get deeper penetration (and more coverage compared to the 2x43.5" option).

If not set on LEDs, I'd go with a 5' T5 fixture with LED supplementation. Halides would be great if supplemented with LEDs as well, but it's just more heat and energy consumption.

Bottom line, there's more than one way to light a tank and I don't think these fixtures will provide you with what you're looking for.

 

[StaO5dom]

I'm undecided on replacing 3x 250W Radiums on the 240.

 

[A sea K]

Could someone with a 20.5 120watt fixture please measure the distance of the mounting lugs for the wire hanger kit(long ways). I'm building a DIY hanger frame and cant manage to find this info anywhere.
TIA, Chris

 

[zibba]

I'm undecided on replacing 3x 250W Radiums on the 240.

I use to run Radiums over a tank that shared the same water volume with the tank that I have a Maxspect over. My opinion would be to keep the Radiums and add royal blue LED supplementation (Reefbrites are good all in one option, RapidLED are a good DIY option).

I experimented growing the same pieces under both lights and I thought most SPS grew better under the Radiums. But some pieces looked better under the Halides and some looked better under the Maxspect. LPS always looked better under the LEDs, but I had similar growth issues.

I ultimately switched out the Radium for a Hydra52. Happy with the energy savings, no bulb replacement and no heat issues (was able to take the chiller offline). Growth is alright, not as good as under Radiums, but color is just as good or better (and better than the Maxspect, IME).

Hope that helps.

 

[saintsnsinners]

So don't beat me up too bad but......I have a 120w 16k and its just too warm looking for my taste. can I swap out some of the leds? if so, which should I swap? I have built cree units with just cool white and royal blue and I like that look. I think the warmth with the blue is what people refer to when they say it looks 'purple'. it's obviously not purple but more like violet to me.

 

[markalot]

Bumping this. I'd like to see more longer term experiences.

My 150 gallon, 16K razors overhead running at 80B/60W and BML strips on front and back to light the sides of the corals. While my tank is mixed I'm mostly concerned with SPS.

Front BML fixture is custom, basically the 20K but with equal numbers of warm and cool white:

Rear is their 20K.

Tanks has been setup since July 1st with corals moved from two smaller tanks, both running LED, one of them the smaller 16K razor.

Overall I really like the fixture. I wish I could tie the two together so I didn't have to set both timers but it's not a big deal. The bottom of the fixtures are about 12" off the glass tops and I am running around 300 PAR max for most of the Acros. The slimer is obviously my oldest Acro and it will grow under anything, so it's not a good indicator.

Anyone else running the Razors longer term? I know EvolutionZ is, if you haven't seen his thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2356870

Thanks!

 

[ReefTron5000]

I've got a 48x30x19 mixed reef with lots of different types of coral including SPS. I have two Razor 120watt 16K fixtures and I can't figure out if I need a third. When I set the lights horizontally across the width if the tank I feel like I'm not getting enough coverage towards the very front and rear. Right now I've got them on the legs set front to back on either side and I have a small Kessil lamp covering the back middle where it's a little dark. Obviously this isn't ideal cause it looks weird with the colors and intensities mixing but for the last several months I felt its worked the best.

Do you guys think two fixtures should be good enough for this tank? If I had a third I'd have like 100% coverage everywhere. Or, should I try raising the whole thing up with the hanging kit and increase intensity? At the moment I'm only running whites at 30%. I could also try the 120 degree reflectors but then in that situation I'm worried SPS won't get enough light. I'm just so on the fence with getting a third when I feel like 2 should be doing it.

 

[markalot]

I would hang it about 12 inches above the water line and raise the intensity.

 

[xaflatoonx]

getting ready to buy the maxspect - so coming to you guys for some input.

I have a standard 4ft 90 gallon tank - it has a center brace as well.

question is - do i go for two 120w 16K?
or 1 300w 16k?

if i go 2 of the 120w route - they will each go in the two sections split by the center brace. If i get one 300w - i am thinking the center brace wont really be effecting it that bad since there are no LEDs in the center.

any advice?

if i get 2 x 120w - cost is 838
if i get 1 x 300w - cost is 899

so its not really that different - but more lighting in 300w.

My major concern is - i dont want any light wasted - and hoping the center brace wont really make an issue.

secondly - if one of my lights go bad down the road - i can replace ONE unit - and be done. If i get 1 300w - i will have to replace the full unit.

confused - please help me decide!

 

[xaflatoonx]

Pic of the top of my tank attached.

I currently have two Orbit marine USA leds that you see at the top going across.