Metal Halides

[wiszmaster]

like i said before .. i like the technology ... i'd love to go with it myself ... but its not the answer to MH vs. T5 ... not at the current price point.
I don't think T5's are the answer to MH ... i believe they are a very viable option, or alternative ...

To tell you the truth .. i'd love to setup the tank via sunlight ... seeing how we have ample supply of it here.

 

[keinreis]

The solaris uses Luxion bulbs which are not standard LED's. The company I work for has been playing with a few Luxion products, but not enough for me to voice my oponion on them, but I do know they are bright as s#$%

 

[wiszmaster]

yes, they are much brighter, and the life expectancy is longer with less loss, but they still loose. supposedly they will retain around 70% of brightness by 50,000 hours.

if you look att eh following graph - it looks like by about 12,000 hours the LED will be at about 80% brightness

 

[ConcreteReefer]

To tell you the truth .. i'd love to setup the tank via sunlight ... seeing how we have ample supply of it here.

I was actually thinking about doing this- There is a great thread somewhere here about the use of "Solatubes". I think we live in the perfect environment for them, What better way to replicate nature? + could you imagine the long term savings.

As far as evergy cost/comparison goes- i was simply stating that LED's will probably save you about $10 per month compared to the 3-250w's, 8 T5's + the chiller.

My old chiller (1/4hp coralife) used to cost me about $30/month to keep my tank at 79-80 in the summer.

but its not the answer to MH vs. T5 ... not at the current price point

exactly, It will be in the next few years though.

 

[ConcreteReefer]

LOL- That graph is from July 2002... What kind of LED's were they testing? Find one for Luxeon bulbs and then post it.

 

[keinreis]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9164881#post9164881 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ConcreteReefer
LOL- That graph is from July 2002... What kind of LED's were they testing? Find one for Luxeon bulbs and then post it.

LOL I know for a fact things have changed quite a bit since then as far as luxeon development. good catch!

 

[wiszmaster]

Yes, the solartubes .... i wouldn't be surprised if the LEDs would save you more than $10/month .. the chiller bumped by power bill up by about $15-$18/month... just the upfront cost makes them hard to reach for most.

 

[wiszmaster]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9164908#post9164908 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by keinreis
LOL I know for a fact things have changed quite a bit since then as far as luxeon development. good catch!

don't kill the messenger!

i pulled that graph RIGHT FROM SOLARISLED.COM

http://www.solarisled.com/FAQTechnical/5MMLedvsHighPowerLED/tabid/60/Default.aspx

 

[deschlayer]

I don't want real life lighting...I want better! Nature/god never grew a 400 pound pumpkin, man did. I don't want my "reef" to take 20 years to look good. LED's hands down are better then anything else right now. an incandescent light losses 95% of its watts to heat a led looses 5%. the solris is expensive because of it's computer, R&D of the technology, and specialized nature of the product. If a company were to take 200 or whatever leds and string them up in a 20k configuration with a simple on/off switch without the coral growth robing cloud coverage none-seance. It would be 1/5 the cost with all the same advantages.

 

[wiszmaster]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9164943#post9164943 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by deschlayer
I don't want real life lighting...I want better! Nature/god never grew a 400 pound pumpkin, man did.

THANK YOU ! now thats sig material!

 

[deschlayer]

for a 24 inch led light you need 50 Luxeon bulbs and at $5 a pop(witch is way more expensive the Solris would get the for) it would cost $250 and use 250 watts of power
so $50 for a light housing
$250 for lights (my cost)
$50 for a 250 watt dc transformer
$25 for resisters and wires and whatever

total to build your self a led light witch i think I an rounding up by a very good bit $375.00

 

[wiszmaster]

you added in the drivers as well?

 

[deschlayer]

yeah run the light in secsetion*spelling with a 250watt dc transformer, I would use resisters for the "drivers"

 

[deschlayer]

I might make one for myself sometime

 

[wiszmaster]

go ahead ... i'd be interested in how it comes out, and how well you'll like it.

I've seen a bunch of small replacement light bulbs that are powered by LEDs ... pretty neat.

 

[coralfarmer84]

you guys and your fish tank nonsense. What kind of person has a reef tank in their house anyways

 

[coralfarmer84]

Why don't you guys do something constructive instead of quarrel about lighting.

I want one of you guys to design a chiller that is composed of one icecube, two pieces of epoxy on each end, and a 3/4 inch pvc pipe. Then put it in a fancy box and stick a picture of scott on the side, wearing a maguyver teeshirt and sticking his thumb up!

I may be a little off topic but hey this discussion needed a lil comic relief at the expense of keinreis, rock on "tuna can" rock on :lol:

 

[wiszmaster]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9168949#post9168949 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralfarmer84
I may be a little off topic but hey this discussion needed a lil comic relief at the expense of keinreis, rock on "tuna can" rock on :lol:

hahaha! tuna can ... hahaha!

 

[wiszmaster]

:thumbsup: x 10

 

[keinreis]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9169075#post9169075 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wiszmaster
hahaha! tuna can ... hahaha!

nothing like girth!