Midstream monitor

[toddmau5]

Has anyone been hearing the buzz about this monitor yet? I love the idea of it, but kinda worried that they don't have nitrates and nitrites included yet.
What are your thoughts?
http://************.com/2013/12/09/mindstream-oxygen/
http://blog.aquanerd.com/2013/11/mindstream-aquarium-monitoring-system.html

 

[rogergolf66]

Wow is this for sale yet? I can't find it for sale.

 

[toddmau5]

Not yet, they are still in development. According to their Facebook page, they have the unit in testing for 18months. They just changed the calcium sensor so they are retweaking that and it sounds like they are just trying to figure out the logistics of the sensor discs, max/min temperatures, shelf life etc. I just started following them, I hope we hear something soon

 

[rogergolf66]

Keep us posted I don't use FB

 

[spicytuna]

There's a monitor similar to that called the "seneye" it measures everything from nitrate and phosphate to lux intensity so you know when to change your bulbs

 

[rogergolf66]

There's a monitor similar to that called the "seneye" it measures everything from nitrate and phosphate to lux intensity so you know when to change your bulbs

Have seen that one but it dosnt measure alk. To me with sps tank I would pay a lot of money to accurately constantly measure alk. Cal, and mag are just a nice bonus.

 

[Cubed Reefer]

Saw this Roger been following it for awhile.

Overall it measure 12 different things with more to come! Rumors are that it will be like 599.99 I say its worth it though. Also Potassium is HUGE SPS!

CR

 

[toddmau5]

In the one article they were using the disposed oxygen along with photosynthetic rates, similar to what Roger was trying to figure out with ph settings vs photosynthetic limits and lighting schedule, should be pretty neat either way. They keep saying they want to keep it "affordable" so I'm hoping it's not $599, but I guess depending on the costs of the discs it could be very worth it.

 

[rogergolf66]

At 600 I would be all over it. As long as it is very accurate. I dont measure potasium for sps tanks. Personally I dont think it it need if u do regular water changes with good salt. But to have a constant alk reading. Thats the key parameter for sps. I check alk a minimum of 5 times a keep.

 

[MrHarvard]

At 600 I would be all over it. As long as it is very accurate. I dont measure potasium for sps tanks. Personally I dont think it it need if u do regular water changes with good salt. But to have a constant alk reading. Thats the key parameter for sps. I check alk a minimum of 5 times a keep.

Come on Roger I say you buy one of the Thrive Aquatics water labs and we can all come over and test are parameters!! Im sure for the right price they would sell you one!!

 

[rogergolf66]

They r like 6 grand right and don't monitor just a testing station computerized right?

 

[MrHarvard]

They r like 6 grand right and don't monitor just a testing station computerized right?

Not sure of the price but yes and yes.....

 

[Cubed Reefer]

Heard they can report wirelessly and will have a phone app where you can see graphs and stuff its like an apex without the energy bars. the disc are estimated at 30$ and last 3 months so 10$ per month plus initial cost which i read will be around 399.99 - 599.99. worth every penny imo

CR

 

[rogergolf66]

Heard they can report wirelessly and will have a phone app where you can see graphs and stuff its like an apex without the energy bars. the disc are estimated at 30$ and last 3 months so 10$ per month plus initial cost which i read will be around 399.99 - 599.99. worth every penny imo

CR

I will be first in line to buy at 399

 

[MJNTWise]

I will be first in line to buy at 399

Right after me....:lolspin:

 

[Ted_C]

Miami's board posted about this back in November:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2350882

One thing that bothered me - they wont say who they are, who their CEO or company structure is or where they are located.

Seems fishy.

 

[Cubed Reefer]

Don't think they are an actual company yet maybe when they release it. But I know these have a bunch of phd marine biologists on it as a project. Most likely getting their ducks in a row because this piece will change the way we test/monitor reef aquariums as well as the testing market forever IMO

CR

 

[toddmau5]

The first article that I posted that the forum decided to block mentioned the founder and engineers named

 

[luisagos]

Sounds like a gimmick to me.

I am in the WasteWater Field.
Guess what, they test the same way we test our water but with equipment that cost thousands of dollars.

We have a Nitrate probe, its about 20 inches long and 5 inches wide, it cost 17k, thats only the probe cost.

I have seen one equipment that can test many type of parameters, and they cost in $50k.

They take water out of the system, dose it with certain chemicals using Titration methods they calculate a number.

The thing is that water is taken out of the system and discarded automatically. Not practical for home reef aquarium, we would lose to much water for continuous monitor use.

Please name one test that we do that does not need a known secondary chemical to figure out its value?

I do the first and easy one, index of refraction, method we use for salinity value.

Sorry guys, there is a reason why we make pretty colors when we sample our water.
Till someone design a molecule detection machine, we stuck with playing with color.

 

[luisagos]

Well I got bored and did some research.
I wanted to see how they where doing this.

I guess midstream monitor is based on fluorescence sensing technology.
Little research on that subject, came with some interesting notes.



There was some interference while measuring the absorbance spectra, but the study presented conclusive evidence that measuring optical properties could be a cheaper, less time-consuming and more sensitive method of water quality assessment than laboratory chemical-based analyses, the researchers found.

I might stand corrected and by myself at that.
I am still puzzled at the price, should be in the thousands if this really works.

Read this, explains how this technology works.