min size for a small species of puss
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XxAngelzDustxX
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Re: min size for a small species of puss
Umm sorry but I have to say this...
Aren't you a little young to be taking such a risk? I'm only 17 and I know I wouldn't trust myself with such a lethal creature, especially when my family is involved.
But to answer your question, yes I think the 12 gallon would be fine. Octos only live 2 years so if he's at full size, you might not have too much time left on him.
Good luck.
Wee Man said:
Umm sorry but I have to say this...
Aren't you a little young to be taking such a risk? I'm only 17 and I know I wouldn't trust myself with such a lethal creature, especially when my family is involved.
But to answer your question, yes I think the 12 gallon would be fine. Octos only live 2 years so if he's at full size, you might not have too much time left on him.
Good luck.
OctoMonkey
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Some blue rings will only live for between 6 and 10 months so if it is fully grown you may only be looking at a week or two... you never know???
johnrags1234
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Wee Man said:
I REALLY hope you do not die.
PLEASE, dont take this the wrong way, BUT i feel that if you are answering a question that is 100% sincere such as the one propsed by XxXAngelDustXxX in such a manner as in quotes, maybe you really ARENT ready for a Blue ring octo.
Have you looked at Dr. James B. Wood's site?
100%JMHO
John
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Out side of boasting about being the cool kid on the block with s deadly octo, you will have spent your money on a species that might only live a week in your tank.
On the other hand, if the store ships I know a professor who studies blue rings that would love to get it for serious research.
On the other hand, if the store ships I know a professor who studies blue rings that would love to get it for serious research.
I agree with Wee Man, blue rings are cool. I do disagree with XxAngelzDustxX, because I believe that those of who are serious about keeping such dangerous animals will not get hurt, because we won't screw around with the octo.
However, I do agree with XxAngelzDustxX about my family being involved. My mom takes care of my fish when I'm not able to be home to feed them, and I don't want to risk someone getting bit. What I am going to recommend to you, Wee Man, is if you get a blue ring, is to put the closest hospital's toxicology dept. on speed dial. That's what I'm going to do when I get a blue ring anyway ( I probably have less time to react than you, I'm only 14). IMO, I don't think the eclipse will hold it, because it could easily escape from the tank. Of course, This should be expected from the world's smartest invert!
Darwin Rules
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Well, i do hope people who do get them fully knowing they're deadly creatures just out of the coolness factor do die.
Just darwining thin society before any of these dimwits gets to president.
Note the ever present unability to speak or write correctly their own native language.
Darwin Rules
Well, i do hope people who do get them fully knowing they're deadly creatures just out of the coolness factor do die.
Just darwining thin society before any of these dimwits gets to president.
Note the ever present unability to speak or write correctly their own native language.
Gonodactylus
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Dear Wee Man and Prawngoby,
I assume that anyone considering purchasing a blue-ringed ocotpus has done their homework on the biology of the animal, how to care for it, and the dangers associated with them. If not, please see the information posted on the Ceph Page. This includes an article that I wrote for Freshwater and Marine Aquarium that appeared March, 2000.
If you already know that these animals are potentially deadly, that they are expensive, and that an adult will probably live in your aquarium at most only a few weeks, then there probably isn't too much I can do to dissuade you from buying one.
If you have already discounted the possibility that anyone else in you family such as a younger sibling, or a friend of theirs from down the street, will try to touch the octopus, then you know more about human nature than I do.
In short, there is probably nothing I can say that will convince you not to purchase one of these beasts. However, what I can do is offer my services as an expert witness to your family, or the family of someone else who might be killed by your blue-ring, should they decide to bring legal action against the person and/or business who was so irresponsible in selling a dangerous animal to a 13 or 14 year old. The risk of injury or death from the bite of one of these animals is well known and anyone trading in them should be aware of these risks. To offer one for sale to a juvenile, is, in my opinion, negligent and I would be happy to testify to this. Given the number of warnings that have been widely circulated, I suspect that a jury would agree.
I assume that anyone considering purchasing a blue-ringed ocotpus has done their homework on the biology of the animal, how to care for it, and the dangers associated with them. If not, please see the information posted on the Ceph Page. This includes an article that I wrote for Freshwater and Marine Aquarium that appeared March, 2000.
If you already know that these animals are potentially deadly, that they are expensive, and that an adult will probably live in your aquarium at most only a few weeks, then there probably isn't too much I can do to dissuade you from buying one.
If you have already discounted the possibility that anyone else in you family such as a younger sibling, or a friend of theirs from down the street, will try to touch the octopus, then you know more about human nature than I do.
In short, there is probably nothing I can say that will convince you not to purchase one of these beasts. However, what I can do is offer my services as an expert witness to your family, or the family of someone else who might be killed by your blue-ring, should they decide to bring legal action against the person and/or business who was so irresponsible in selling a dangerous animal to a 13 or 14 year old. The risk of injury or death from the bite of one of these animals is well known and anyone trading in them should be aware of these risks. To offer one for sale to a juvenile, is, in my opinion, negligent and I would be happy to testify to this. Given the number of warnings that have been widely circulated, I suspect that a jury would agree.
johnrags1234
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Gonodactylus said:
That was really well said, two thumbs up:thumbsup: :thumbsup:!
John
And.... neurotoxin venom is NOT removed by conventional protein skimmers, and only partly cleared by concientious carbon filtration (changing it a LOT) So if the little guy does survive all the changes, and no little kid/neighbor/friend rescues it off the floor because it got out, and you have it for a while in your little tank, the venom will build up (it's in the saliva) just because it opens it's mouth to feed. All you need is a little cut on your hand you can't even see or feel... It's in the water now...
Dude nice knowing you, see ya on the other side. Those animals are not worth keeping in any way shape or form. If you don't have a ton of experience with octopi or saltwater- which YOU don't sice your only thirteen I would say STAY AWAY from them. Start, begin continue or how ever you want to put it with something you can have fun. A bi-mac is easily trainable and a lot safer to handle. Mine only eats from my hand after he grabs me and tries to pull me in! It is cool to have a creature that likes to play and be played with. A blue ring can not do this. Enjoy your pet and your life. Stay away from the Blue ring.
I work for the Department of Defense. A 220+ pound marine put one on his shoulder for a picture. He was dead within minutes. Granted you don't ever plan on touching it, but what happens when you aren't around and something 'wierd' happens. Could anyone in your family get bit?
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