Moray

fish042099

fish042099

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What would be a hardy moray that would be an aggressive feeder but not eat my raccoon buttrflyfish, sergeant major, possible lionfish, v tail grouper, tang,puffer, harlequin tusk, bluelined snapper, and foxface?
Some eels I was looking at are hourglass moray,yellowhead moray, andwhitemouth moray.

(p.s. All the fish above I'm not going to get together I'm going to figureout which ones I want and pick them. I already have the sergeant and butterfly.)
 
You have six threads on the first page of this section... Calm down with your posts a bit and search through old posts, you might be able to find some answers on your own compared to posting every thought that comes to your head...
 
All eels in my opinion are quite aggressive eaters. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I believe that any eel that is in a home aquarium has the potential of eating some of your fish. Eels are opportunistic feeders for the most part. I have a 4" black damsel in the tank with my Fimbriated. I put the fish in before the eel, the eel was only 10"-12" inches when I got him and there was no way possible the fish could be eaten by the eel due to the mouth size on the eel. That did not stop the eel from tearing a chunk off the fishes back and another from right below the fishes gills (stress coat and 6-8 weeks in QT nursed the fish back to health). Guess the point of that story is if you own an eel expect that at some point it will try and most likely succeed at either killing or eating its tank mates. Now I'm no expert but the more you read up on eels you will realize they are more suited for a species only tank than a community one. I'm not saying a community can not work, I am saying if it does work for you do not get to comfortable with the situation because the possibility of it going bad is always there. It would only be wise to put fish that are cheap and you do not care to lose (moral aspect set aside) in a tank with an eel. You could try extremely large fish if you have a system appropriate in size to accommodate those type fish, but the risk is still there. Eels are hunters and the fish in the tank with it will sleep at some point.
 
anaya said:
All eels in my opinion are quite aggressive eaters. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I believe that any eel that is in a home aquarium has the potential of eating some of your fish. Eels are opportunistic feeders for the most part. I have a 4" black damsel in the tank with my Fimbriated. I put the fish in before the eel, the eel was only 10"-12" inches when I got him and there was no way possible the fish could be eaten by the eel due to the mouth size on the eel. That did not stop the eel from tearing a chunk off the fishes back and another from right below the fishes gills (stress coat and 6-8 weeks in QT nursed the fish back to health). Guess the point of that story is if you own an eel expect that at some point it will try and most likely succeed at either killing or eating its tank mates. Now I'm no expert but the more you read up on eels you will realize they are more suited for a species only tank than a community one. I'm not saying a community can not work, I am saying if it does work for you do not get to comfortable with the situation because the possibility of it going bad is always there. It would only be wise to put fish that are cheap and you do not care to lose (moral aspect set aside) in a tank with an eel. You could try extremely large fish if you have a system appropriate in size to accommodate those type fish, but the risk is still there. Eels are hunters and the fish in the tank with it will sleep at some point.
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Fimbriated morays are more aggressive than other morays also.
 
fish042099 said:
Fimbriated morays are more aggressive than other morays also.
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compared to a zebra- yes, compared to a moringa- no. Aggressive is a relative term.

The point of that post is that pisco eels eat fish, it's what they do. The "aggresive feeders" that you want are piscos.
 
olemiss reb said:
compared to a zebra- yes, compared to a moringa- no. Aggressive is a relative term.

The point of that post is that pisco eels eat fish, it's what they do. The "aggresive feeders" that you want are piscos.
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Very true, moringas are nasty. Would "piscos " eat my prized raccoon butteflyfish?
 
I have actually seen puffers and H. tuskfish nip at eels. So whether or not the eel posses a threat to your fish might also not be the only problem you have. If it were me I would get a zebra moray. I have kept them with puffers and shrimp actually. As long as you keep them fed with krill, zebras seem pretty happy. But be careful when you feed. I had the traumatic scene of my 4' zebra and 5" porcupine puffer go after the same piece of krill. It was deadly for the zebra. When the puffer ate the krill the zebra was trying to eat the krill as well and ended up biting the puffer. The puffer puffed up like he should when stressed. A few of the spines shot through the top and bottom of the zebras mouth. They were stuck and the eel and puffer started thrashing from side to side. Eventually the puffer was freed when the zebras tissue on the mouth tore open. The top and bottom of his mouth looked like a snakes tongue. The zebra never ate again and eventually starved to death. It took a little over a month. After all that I would still recommend a zebra over any other eel. It was my wifes favorite fish. We used to hand feed him. he would stick his head out the top of the tank and we used to rub the top of his head, almost like petting him. I also had a japanese dragon that bit me on the inner wedge of my thumb. He was cool but very aggresive. Not for a newb though. I have had probably 10-12 eels over my SW experience and by far the zebra was the most peaceful and easiest and most reliable( meaning I could trust him to not eat anything else in the tank). Its a cool sight to see a zebra open his mouth and let a cleaner shrimp in his mouth to let the cleaner clean the inside of the eels mouth.
 
I might not get the puffer or tusk fish, no offense to people who like peaceful fish, but I don't think that a fish that temperament would work with a lionfish. Also the butterfly will eat the shrimp. Sorry for your zebra moray btw :(
 
i still don't get why not go even with one of the common echidna morays.. snowflakes and banded morays for example are still pretty "aggressive" when feeding and are less likely to harm the other fish. i personally would go with the favorite piscivore off the list and adjust the rest of stocklist around it rather than try to shoehorn a piscivorous moray into a tank with incompatible tankmates
 
rubensito said:
i still don't get why not go even with one of the common echidna morays.. snowflakes and banded morays for example are still pretty "aggressive" when feeding and are less likely to harm the other fish. i personally would go with the favorite piscivore off the list and adjust the rest of stocklist around it rather than try to shoehorn a piscivorous moray into a tank with incompatible tankmates
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It is on my list- I'm planning to get a snowflake but I wanted another.
 
Im no eel expert but G. Eurostus could potentially be far to aggressive to 'play nice' with the snowflake. I would personally go with the snowflake, butterfly, sergeant major, harlequin tusk and foxface. Not too many fish, and a nice variety. I believe this list would co-habitate quite nicely for the most part.
 
ANY EEL has the potential to eat your fish, period. You are playing Russian roulette when you mix eels and fish no matter the species. The eel does not care if it is your prized fish or not. Echidna species are a bit on the safer side but are by no means SAFE. Snowflakes get nasty when big. If the eel and a fish go for the same food I wish you luck because the eel will assume that means the fish is food as well. I'm in no way the eel police but if you have two eels that are full grown in a 100gal tank it will cause some competition while feeding and only add fuel to a fire you clearly have stated you do not want. Stick with one non-pisco eel and keep your fingers crossed. One eel is risky enough but two eels is like asking for some type of "miracle". I wish you the best of luck if logic is used, if it is over looked you are on your own.
 
The only eel that would truly be compatible with the fish you mentioned is the golden dwarf moray, if you're willing to pay a lot of money for it.
 
Goldentail moray is pretty fish-safe as well, also it would have to be really big/aggressive to bring down such big prey.
 
anaya said:
ANY EEL has the potential to eat your fish, period. You are playing Russian roulette when you mix eels and fish no matter the species. The eel does not care if it is your prized fish or not. Echidna species are a bit on the safer side but are by no means SAFE. Snowflakes get nasty when big. If the eel and a fish go for the same food I wish you luck because the eel will assume that means the fish is food as well. I'm in no way the eel police but if you have two eels that are full grown in a 100gal tank it will cause some competition while feeding and only add fuel to a fire you clearly have stated you do not want. Stick with one non-pisco eel and keep your fingers crossed. One eel is risky enough but two eels is like asking for some type of "miracle". I wish you the best of luck if logic is used, if it is over looked you are on your own.
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I target feed w/ a feeding stick so that limits the possibility of an eel and a fish going for the same peice of krill or whatever.
 
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