More Flow!
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gasman059
The OG mad scientist
i gave up and bought a mj 1200 one. As i researhed the rio2100 the apparent meltdowns was with smallerversions and multiple reefers have been succesful with the 2100 for even 5 10 years, anyways probably will be changin them down d road. will be probably doing the mod myself ty
ReefRockerLive
GHL Mitras LX7 Club
4 Regular MJ1200 powerheads is definitely not enough because each one gives off only 295gph. That would mean you would have only a 5.9X turnover which is not enough for acros. If you mod all those MJ you'd be up to 40X turnover which is acceptable for acros, IMO.
jay24k
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I've never used a mod but I've heard that they just don't last that long.
With the voretch mounted on a side of a tank, you don't need directional. The think has such a wide flow. However, if you want it on the back, then yea, the directional would be nice if they added it.
You just need to decide what is best for you.
With the voretch mounted on a side of a tank, you don't need directional. The think has such a wide flow. However, if you want it on the back, then yea, the directional would be nice if they added it.
You just need to decide what is best for you.
gasman059
The OG mad scientist
Just finished two of my mods, pretty easy indeed and they put tons of flow will see down d road as of now my only issue is location and how to position them out of view. I did place one on my left corner out of sight and it does put some flow even though obstructed by rock work but certainly moves my sps population. Great mod and easy.
MiddletonMark
Premium Member
Part of what I buy with the Tunze is quality/longevity ... not the technology.
But, having said that, the Seio controller is nowhere near the Tunze controllers in terms of functionality - technology is a big difference between the two. Controller does not equal controller, in my book for these two.
Yup, they're expensive. So are $100 fish, $75 frags, etc etc ... the more gallons you want, the more you'll pay by far.
I sure would love a 210, but realize I can do a 58 `right' while keeping under budget.
CeeGee
New member
If I could afford a tank as large as yours I would be able to afford a nice set of powerheads to run in it (hear me out that is not a negative remark). I think different than most people though I have a smaller tank and I spend my money on better equipment so that when I get that bigger tank I am set.
I had the same choice laid before me not too long ago. I could either go with the seios that have start up issues and a lame controller. Maxi-jet mods and no controller (+ DIY with hit or miss results). Vortech which is just as expensive as Tunze with no controller and no long term users to gauge reliability over the long haul, or the real deal Tunze with exceptional customer support. I chose to go with Tunze. There are no cheap alternatives here you can go with junk and end up buying what you should have bought in the first place or you can do it right the first time.
MiddletonMark I couldn't agree with you more. Once again if you want to play you gotta pay.
Sorry I didn't write more but I was at work.
I had the same choice laid before me not too long ago. I could either go with the seios that have start up issues and a lame controller. Maxi-jet mods and no controller (+ DIY with hit or miss results). Vortech which is just as expensive as Tunze with no controller and no long term users to gauge reliability over the long haul, or the real deal Tunze with exceptional customer support. I chose to go with Tunze. There are no cheap alternatives here you can go with junk and end up buying what you should have bought in the first place or you can do it right the first time.
MiddletonMark I couldn't agree with you more. Once again if you want to play you gotta pay.
Sorry I didn't write more but I was at work.
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gasman059
The OG mad scientist
Hey I agree Mark, I'm pretty sure down d line i will be upgrading my flow with either a pair of tunzes with controller or two vortez opposite to each other, thats the plan anyways, my tank will ceratinly b mixed and i'm looking to distribute d flow accordigly most in the sps area of course. Tha good thing about this is the amount of possibilities and the fun u can have while thinking about your next step. Anyways for now it is the 2mjmods1200 targetting the sps dominated area, plus two regular mj 1200 in the other areas of softies and wat not. As soon as time and money permits or thew mods break i will b upgrading . Thanks
RichConley
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I still would like to see some proof that the tunze ramping up and down makes any difference.
Its neat, but I'm not convinced it makes any difference in coral health. Every aquaculture,etc article I have seen seems to indicate otherwise.
Its neat, but I'm not convinced it makes any difference in coral health. Every aquaculture,etc article I have seen seems to indicate otherwise.
gasman059
The OG mad scientist
Hey ricg I belive its all hype and here say, the product is superiorly built but as far as flow , man i had 3 mods and had to take one out of my 200 b/c too much flow for my other softies and lps anyways , Iagree in terms of coral health, I'm really trying to keep my setup aesthetically clean, and vortex perhaps will do that anyways over an out
clkwrk
Active member
Wrong a 6000 can go to a 6100 but a 6100 can not got to a 6200 they have different motor blocks.
Yup this is BULL ....
Tunzes are NOT the same technology as a Seio . They use no shaft , they have a lower bearing, They use different motors which are low voltage, they use propellors ,they are built with lifespan in mind .
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Shawnts106
To even compare a SEIO controller with a Tunze multi controller is absoulutley crazy thats like comparing a yugo and chevy......The seio controller doesn't even come close to what a multi can do and its not about the pulse up and down its the way it conrols each pump seaperate, Has food timer,has moon light ,has night mode,runs pumps sequential,runs pump random,runs pumps in pulse,runs pumps by channels.
BTW a 6200 on the fastest pulse can almost do what a wave box does in terms of creating a surface wave.
I also have Tunze pumps that are in excess of 5 years old and they haven't skipped a beat yet.
jay24k
Active member
Well, I think if you don't have experience with other powerheads, then you don't know what the true difference is. The seio while works fine for me is a completely different flow. If I put a coral in front of it a foot away, it blasts the crap out of it. With the vortech, it is super gentle and no issues.
As for build quality, the tunze and even the vortech surpass the seio. I thought from pictures, the vortech was dingy and cheap but when I received it, it was otherwise. As for a tunze, those things are built rock solid.
I think all of them work well, you just have to figure out what fits your budget best and work with it.
As for build quality, the tunze and even the vortech surpass the seio. I thought from pictures, the vortech was dingy and cheap but when I received it, it was otherwise. As for a tunze, those things are built rock solid.
I think all of them work well, you just have to figure out what fits your budget best and work with it.
clkwrk
Active member
I agree trust me I have been around long enough and have enough tanks around the house to say I have at least used almost every powerhead in our hobby and tons of regular pumps. As a matter of fact I use alot of different pumps now . Its all about what I need or want on a tank .Seios do great for my smaller tanks but I would need a large army of them to replace my tunzes in my sps tank . All pumps even rios have their place.
For me I would have to buy 4 seio controllers to equal the amount of pumps I can run with my 1 Tunze Multi controller . It would take 10 seio 2600's and 5 controllers to act the same asnd provide close to the same flow but yet the controllers are limited compared to the tunze so ......they wouldn't really act the same.
Besides that would be an aweful mess in a 180.
BTW 5 seio controllers and 10 2600's =1599.45
Tunze multi 3x6100 and 3x6200=2594.49
So I think I get my moneys worth out of the extra 1000 I spent by not having so many powerheads,way less wires,better control ,longer warranty ,top notch customer service,quality and most of all one controller to controll them all.
JMO
For me I would have to buy 4 seio controllers to equal the amount of pumps I can run with my 1 Tunze Multi controller . It would take 10 seio 2600's and 5 controllers to act the same asnd provide close to the same flow but yet the controllers are limited compared to the tunze so ......they wouldn't really act the same.
Besides that would be an aweful mess in a 180.
BTW 5 seio controllers and 10 2600's =1599.45
Tunze multi 3x6100 and 3x6200=2594.49
So I think I get my moneys worth out of the extra 1000 I spent by not having so many powerheads,way less wires,better control ,longer warranty ,top notch customer service,quality and most of all one controller to controll them all.
JMO
RichConley
New member
So do tunzes. IMO, and IME, my Tunze was WAY more abusive to corals than my SEIOS.
My maximods probably have the widest spread, and by a good margin.
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