Moving a 140g reef tank

taylorjonl

New member
So I finally got a house and I am buying a big reef tank. I started my passion with a 30g reef tank in my apartment with a couple clowns and an anemone, then I upgraded to a 90g tank, this sent my passion into a fury and I bought a house so I could put a tank in the wall and make a fish room :)

When I bought my house I purposefully bought a house with an unfinished basement. I also loved the yard with the 100 year old massive trees...

I wasn't really ready for this but I came across a deal I couldn't pass up, a 140g tank with all the fixings. I wasn't actively looking but just happened to talk to an friend that was motivated to sell. The tank is a 140g tank, with a reeflo dart, custom sump, custom skimmer, uv sterilizer, custom LED array, 2xMP40s, Apex controller, multiple canisters, I mean it is loaded. Did I mention it came with the fish/corals. It took all of 30 minutes to convince me.

My buddy is in a hurry to get it out, so I am rushing to get things ready for the tank. I am not going to put it into the wall just yet, instead I am going to turn my basement into a temporary fish room. This is a 30'x13' foot unfinished areay of my basement.

So I started reading up on how to move a big tank.

This is the first link I started with:

http://www.reefs.org/library/talklog/j_wiseman_101898.html

It has basically the following steps:

1) Drain water into a tub until corals are exposed.
2) Put corals in sandwich bags in tub(don't seal bags, just to prevent corals from touching).
3) Put live rock in another tub, fill with water to cover live rock.
4) Remove all equipment.
5) Place fish in another tub with water of course.
6) Scoop sand, being careful to disturb as little as possible.
7) Tear down tank, place in truck, move to new location.
8) Kinda vague, but I assume unpack, place the stand and aquarium, plumb the hardware.
9) Place the sand in the aquarium, careful to not disturb.
10) Place saran wrap on sand, then large plater.
11) Put as much water as possible back into aquarium.
12) Add newly brewed water until close to full.
13) Place rock, twist and turn rock under water to let air escape.
14) Vague again, assuming make sure to turn on pumps, skimmers, heaters, etc.

This sounds pretty reasonable...

Then I found this link:

http://www.reefs.org/library/article/j_meek.html

It was a little different, had the following steps:

1) Drain water into a tub for fish.
2) Remove corals, place in cooler, THEN siphon water into cooler.
3) Remove live rock to some type of container.
4) Place fish in previously prepaired container.
5) Remove as much water as is possible to other containers.
6) Put the sand in another container, no water.
7) Tear down tank, place in truck, move to new location.
8) Move the stand into place and level it, place tank and plumb.
9) Add the sand and rock.
10) Put some water in the tank.
11) Add the corals.
12) Fill the tank with water being careful not to include detritus from settled container.
13) Top it off with the fresh saltwater that you have mixing.
14) Plug everything in and ensure that all is working properly.
15) When the temperature is stable, acclimate the fish as you normally would and then add them to the tank.

I found this link:

http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/saltwater/Ziegler_Moving1.html

This one takes a slower approach:

1) Start a couple weeks early
2) Setup some quarantine tanks, basic filtration(aeration, heating/cooling, PVC for hiding)
3) Setup a 32g garbage can, along with power heads for circulation
4) Do the move...

I skipped a lot in this one because it wasn't interesting to me, the other two pages were more indepth.

I think all three approaches have their strengths and weaknesses...

I decided to make a run to my local ranch store, I basically have this at my disposal:

55g water drums x2
100g rubbermaid stock tank
50g rubbermaid stock tank
55g tank(not setup yet)
20g sump(not setup yet)
250 watt metal halide with actinics x2
reef octopus skimmer rated at 75-100g
10g glass tanks x6

I think I may buy another 100g stock tank and another 55g water drum.

On move day I will be renting a uhaul.

I think I would like to merge the three articles into:

1) Setup the 55g tank, the 10g sump with baffles and the skimmer, along with the 100g stock tank as a single system. I will have to buy some hardware(I will clarify details later). Run with culinary water for a day or two, then drain.
2) Day before move, remove corals from rock, place in sand.
3) On move day, drain water into a cooler for fish and a cooler for the corals.
4) Drain water into a 100g stock tank until 1/4 full.
5) When 100g stock tank is 1/4 full, start draining into 55g water drums.
6) Before water level is too low, remove fish to cooler.
7) Before water level is too low, remove corals to cooler(figure out sandwich bag trick).
8) Remove live rock to 100g stock container.
9) Keep draining water as low as possible before gets too much sand/detritus.
10) Carefully scoop sand into some containers, trying to maintain layering.
11) Remove remaining water and junk, discard.
12) Tear down tank, place in truck, move to new location.
13) Move the stand into place and level it, place tank.
14) Put the rest of the stuff in the basement, keeping it cool.
15) Drain storage containers into 55g/100g setup.
16) Top off the system with pre-brewed salt water.
17) Start the pumps and stuff from this system, put the 250w x2 metal halides over the 100g stock tank.
18) Acclimate and place the fish in the 55g tank.
19) Acclimate and place the live rock in the 100g stock tank, lights off for a day.
20) Acclimate and place the corals in the 100g stock tank.
21) Move the live sand into the 140g tank.
22) Plump the 140g tank.
23) Start filling 140g tank with newly brewed water.
24) Turn on the 140g tank's pumps, skimmers and filters, light later.
25) Let the 140g stew for a few days, skimmer work its magic, etc.
26) Slowly start combining the two systems into a single system.
27) After I am comfortable, move live rock, corals and fish into the 140g.

So, I said I would clarify the 55g+10g+100g system, basically the 55g and the 100g would overflow into the 10g tank(with skimmer) , each having their own return pumps. I am guessing that the entire system would contain 140g. I am hoping I can recover around 70-100g from the original water, so we are talking about a 30-50% water change.

When I merge the systems, I would likely get a couple pumps that would just transfer between the two systems, and on a saturday run them for 12 hours, before calling it good. This is of course after I make sure they are very close.

After I have the 140g up, I would remove the extra stuff, make the 55g a quarantine tank, then in the future use the remaining hardware to have fun :)

I have a lot of anxiety over this, I want this move to go smooth and for everything to survive. I hope I didn't miss steps, let me know how you would do it.
 
Wow, lots of thought there. Whenever I plan stuff out in that detail something happens and derails the whole process. Why not get the large stock tanks, set them up in the basement, heaters,pumps and lights, toss in the LR and corals then take your time cleaning the tank ect and get it setup the way you want it? The only time sensitive stuff are the corals and your buddys time frame, handle them then take your time with the rest
 
Just a word or 2 of caution. I just finished moving a 72g tank across the street from my father in laws house to mine. I actually left the substrate in the tank with an inch or 2 of water. Even this stirred up quite a bit of crud from the crushed coral. I think you are going to have a real hard time scooping out the sand and getting it back in place without stirring up a pile of the gunk trapped in there. Setting up a longer term solution for the fish and coral and taking your time getting the DT ready is a really good idea.
 
So I am in full panic mode. I just cracked the 55g tank I planned on using while I setup the main tank... I have been in a rush and working late into the night to prepare and I got sloppy.

I have the 100g stock tank along with a 50g stock tank setup right now brewing some salt water, I figure I have about 120g of salt water between these two.

Today I bought another 100g stock tank(before I cracked the 55g, I planned on using this for the move). Currently I have my skimmer in the 50g stock tank. My initial thought is to get another 100g and 50g stock tank, set them up dry, then "bridge" the two systems. I want to put as much water from the move into this dry system, then slowly combine the water(across a couple days).

I have attached current pics of the setup, so far. Pardon the horrible pictures, I am using my iPod in a low light basement at night. Basically the 50g stock tank is stacked on top of the 100g stock tank sorta in a lower case 't' pattern. Works well.

I was planning on getting the additional stock tanks anyways, the 50g tanks make great frag tanks and the 100g tanks will make great containers for more live rock(biological filter).

I really just want to not be in a hurry to get the recently moved 140g tank setup, when I get in a hurry I tend to make mistakes(which is why I cracked the 55g today).

What do you think?
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0191.jpg
    IMG_0191.jpg
    44.4 KB · Views: 2
Good luck man it looks like you have a good plan a few months ago i bought a 120 with just some live rock and a couple of corals and one fish. I already had all my stuff set up temporarily in smaller tanks. It took me about 10 hours to get it moved and set up but i now have a cool 120 gal tank
 
So the owner of the tank had to reschedule, I have an additional week which is a life saver. I am going to pickup the stock tanks tonight. I did some sketching and I think I can use a 55g drum to combine the two systems, I will post once I have more information.
 
So the owner of the tank had to reschedule, I have an additional week which is a life saver. I am going to pickup the stock tanks tonight. I did some sketching and I think I can use a 55g drum to combine the two systems, I will post once I have more information.

IMHO your overthinking it.... again =)
Just set up a tub for the livestock/LR use another for the extra water if you like. They will do just fine for awhile with good circulation, proper temp and a weekly W/C

Relax, to much stress takes all the fun out of this hobby.
 
So I spent the day drilling and plumbing the 100g stock tanks, here is a video of how it turned out.

It is a little shaky, taken with my iPod. I am leak testing it, all the PVC is currently friction fit, will glue once I move it downstairs. On the end with just the ball valves, a 3rd 100g stock tank will reside.

I am working on getting some Live Rock to put in the system today and tomorrow. I will post again when I get it in the basement, probably late tonight or tomorrow.

Mouse, I am probably overthinking it but I would prefer to overthink that underthink. I am just trying to avoid being in a panic on move day.
 
Time is near.

I started by coming home and finding a bunch of water all over... I had a 50g and 100g stock tank setup with 120 lbs of cured live rock and 130gish of water that had a pretty big leak. I made the mistake of trying to fix a small leak yesterday by tightening a plug on the 100g stock tank, this caused the bulk head to come loose. I had about 20g of water on the cement.

So I drained the water into a spare 100g stock tank I had, then resealed the 100g stock tank with the 120lbs of live rock, refilled it, then tuned the system. This wasn't fun...

Here is the plan, Saturday I will move the livestock(fish, corals and live rock), Sunday the rest(live sand, equipment). Then Sunday/Monday, start setting up the tank. Then a week or so later, move livestock into newly setup tank.

So I have a 100g stock tank, plus 50g stock tank set aside for the fish, corals and live rock. They are dry right now, sorta, leak testing with tap water. I also have a 100g and 50g stock tank setup, with 120lbs cured live rock setup a couple feet away, this has been baking over a week.

I plan on waking up early Saturday, dry setup in basement. Next I will head off to the current tank location. I will start by draining enough water as needed to move the livestock into containers(possibly camping coolers). After that, I have a spare 100g stock tank, I will drain more water into the 100g(hoping to fill it 1/4 with water, enough to keep live rock alive). Next, I will place as much water as possible into a 55g drum. Lastly, place live rock into 100g(trying not to kick up debris).

I plan on leaving as much water as is needed to keep the MP40's keeping the sand alive for 24 hours...

Then I will move to the new location, then take as much water from 55g drum as possible into the 50g stock tank. Fill the 100g stock tank with as much water from the currently baking system to keep the level up in the 50g stock tank. Turn on pumps in staging system. Let it bake for a couple minutes, then add the livestock.

I figure that I will end up with a 50% water change at this point.

Then on Sunday, move the rest. Start by gently placing sand into spare 100g stock tank, add water, tear down tank. Then move equipment, place stand and tank, let everyone else leave, then setup the tank on Sunday/Monday(took that day off).

I am hoping to limit how long I keep people tied up. I can't wait for this to be done, this week has been a busy work week. I am exhausted...
 
Honestly i just did a tank move and i think your way over thinking this move!!!!
Not trying to be offensive or trying to cause problems i just think you are making way harder than it needs to be
 
where are you located? i have a large 150g rubbermaid tub that i'd let you have for cheap. it is definitely the way to go. just use small 5g buckets and then transfer them to the 150g tub. then that way you won't have to rush so much.
 
Honestly i just did a tank move and i think your way over thinking this move!!!!
Not trying to be offensive or trying to cause problems i just think you are making way harder than it needs to be

Are you talking about your other thread where you were moving the contents of a 40g tank into an established 90g tank? You can't compare moving live stock with tearing down an established 140g reef tank then resetting it up in a new location with no loss of life. If I had an existing system to move them into they would then be comparable.

I have the live stock's temporary home ready, I attached a pic.

Those lights are some old 250w metal halides with some actinic supplementation.

I am heading over to get started in a few, first heading to Lowes to get a hose to siphon with, also buckets and a few PVC pieces.

Wish me luck.
 

Attachments

Well, the live stock move went well, just finished. Had some trouble with a tang, it hid in a rock, nearly jumped onto the floor when I was transferring it.

I am so glad I did the move this way, I am wiped out, if I had to worry about getting the tank setup quickly so the fish had a new home I would have probably broken something, I don't like to get rushed for that very reason.

He is keeping his clown fish, the anemone looked lonely, so I got a couple small Maroon Clowns for it, they hosted in it within 5 seconds of being added, I love Maroon Clowns.

So tomorrow, doing the rest. I can't wait for this to be over, so I can enjoy the tank.
 
man, that a lot of hard work!!
I remember taking down a complete 120 and without livestocks. Took over 3 hours torn down and load and it was 1 truck load and 1 minivan load.
Hope you enjoy it soon!
 
Back
Top