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[rbredding]

TRUEBLACKPERCULA,

why not just purchase a replacement needle valve.. I believe that part is pretty much a stock item (or can be easily DIY'd) with parts from USPlastics.com...
(unlike the injector housing, which is completely custom in every way.. )

IAMWHATIAM...

My assessment that damage was caused by some use other than intended is based on having the non recirculating version of this exact skimmer.. (MR2 with dual beckett injectors) and I can tell you that after I set it up over a year ago, I have not yet touched the injectors more than one time a month (and then only to adjust the needle valve). there is no reason that any forces would be used on the injectors that would justify 1/8" cast acrylic tube become damaged..

I've seen people using the valve intersection with the injector as a "gripping point" to tighten the injector into the base box. (not saying that you did this)

you purchased the skimmer (display model) at a discount - I assure you that if you had a bill of sale and HAD purchased either directly from MRC or in any manner that they could track your purchase, they would make any possible "design flaw" a full and complete repair.. (discounted at a minimum)

How old is the unit? (1-2 years? 6?) that, will also come into play...

and for the record...
$115 is a fair price for the full injector assembly


RGIBSON,
yes, I work about 20 minutes from their building

 

[iamwhatiam52]

TRUEBLACKPERCULA,

why not just purchase a replacement needle valve.. I believe that part is pretty much a stock item (or can be easily DIY'd) with parts from USPlastics.com...
(unlike the injector housing, which is completely custom in every way.. )

IAMWHATIAM...

My assessment that damage was caused by some use other than intended is based on having the non recirculating version of this exact skimmer. Pressure in the cylinder is much higher in the recirc. A small crack or fault can quickly propagate into a bad leak.. (MR2 with dual beckett injectors) and I can tell you that after I set it up over a year ago, I have not yet touched the injectors more than one time a month (and then only to adjust the needle valve). there is no reason that any forces would be used on the injectors that would justify 1/8" cast acrylic tube become damaged.. I agree. Mine have been removed for cleaning only 3 times.

I've seen people using the valve intersection with the injector as a "gripping point" to tighten the injector into the base box. (not saying that you did this)

you purchased the skimmer (display model) at a discount - I assure you that if you had a bill of sale and HAD purchased either directly from MRC or in any manner that they could track your purchase, they would make any possible "design flaw" a full and complete repair.. (discounted at a minimum) I'm not blaming this on a design flaw.

How old is the unit? (1-2 years? 6?) that, will also come into play... Don't know. Probably 3 years.

and for the record...
$115 is a fair price for the full injector assembly
Agreed. $115 is a fair price for the assembly. I just wish I could buy only the cylinder.

RGIBSON,
yes, I work about 20 minutes from their building

 

[rbredding]

good luck making your system whole...

I hate that it's not working right now for you..

 

[Pickupman66]

ill Resurrect this one from the depths.

I ahve a MRC-2 with a single beckett. it is fed off my manifold for my entire system. I run a Reeflow Barracuda Main system pump with about 10- of head up to the tank. it is choked back to provide about 1000 gph to the tank and feeds the skimmer with a 1" main line. I did learn that 3 tiny cerinth snails will render the beckett useless. I also learned a way to feed the discharge from my Ecobak pellet reactor directly into my skimmer.

I had read that it is best to feed teh reactor discharge into the skimmer pump. with a main system pump like mine, there was no direct way. BUT. with a single Injector model, you can put a nipple on the second injector hole and hook the discharge up to that. the pressure there is relatively low so it only slightly impacts the reactor flow. I can compensate it as I have plenty of pressure in my system anyways. Feeding the water in this way in addition to thru the injector by the main pump, I hope to now get better results from my pellets.

Surely the water in the black box is turbulent enough to mix the two intakes together.

 

[juststartingout]

After reading through some of the latest posts, it appears that if you need the venturi or injector nozzle, you have to buy the complete injector assembly. My understanding is that the original nozzle (beckett) is no longer made, so the injector housing is now a different dimension to accomadate the new injector? If I buy the new injector/housing assemblies, where can I find just a new replacement injector for the new housing? I would need two, as I have the MRC MR-7R. I've had to replace injector venturi's as the ball inside wears and the placement gets altered, changing the amount of air the injector pulls in. Whats everyone doing with these? If I can't find a reasonable fix, I may have to switch to a needle wheel skimmer.

 

[juststartingout]

I believe that in the very recent past (6 months maybe), MRC has stopped selling directly to the end user and now uses distributors to sell their products.

To be fair, they determine the "completeness" of the products and components they sell. Under proper use and care, their equipment will last for a VERY long time (10 years or more?)..

If you purchased this skimmer NEW, then I'm sure that you'll be able to convince them to sell a "part of a part". However, if you purchased the skimmer used/damaged, it's unrealistic for you to expect them to sell replacement components for parts that were clearly damaged due to use outside of their design intent.

(for instance, if you purchase a used skimmer that had a crack in it, and you paid a fraction of the retail price, you've got to understand why the company wouldn't necessarily sell micro-components so that you can have a "like new" skimmer at a fraction of the price)
- i'm not saying that happened here, just using that example as an illustration.


The "Cylinder" (Beckett Injector) that you want to buy is over $100.. that's the cost.. it doesn't reflect poorly on them because you don't want to pay to replace a part that sustained damage outside of it's normal operating intent..

Well I disagree about the products & components lasting 10 years. The skimmer itself is in great shape & might last me 10 years. It's the fact that my injectors wear out and I have needed to replace them 3 times. I had purchased my skimmer directly from them but have been unsuccessful in "convincing" them to sell me two injectors.

My skimmer has two injectors, so I need two everytime I replace them, so now I'm looking at $230.00 and then what do replace them with next year, another $230.00 worth of injectors? These did not sustain damage outside of it's normal operating intent. To me, they seem to be a wear item, a cost of running this skimmer.

 

[Iammatt219]

from what I understand of your post you just need to replace the beckett head, which you could online for anywhere betwwen $5-10

 

[MIKE NY]

the problem is the new beckett is different from the old ones because they won't fit the old style injector housing. I have the old ones for many years now and never had to replace them....just curious how the ball on the beckett wears out.

 

[A_Z]

hi MRC owners I need some advice

I was thinking about this for a 125g dual overflow setup

30g sump/fuge dual intank.

I wanted to use an MRC 1

For my return pump can I also use it to pump water into the skimmer?

the return pump would be a 3600 GPH Sequence Dart

It would power the two return lines and the skimmer.

will this work? :fish2:

 

[juststartingout]

the problem is the new beckett is different from the old ones because they won't fit the old style injector housing. I have the old ones for many years now and never had to replace them....just curious how the ball on the beckett wears out.

The "T" on the ball, where it lays in between the two housing halves gets worn and then the ball is allowed to settle further down the injector housing. The injector halves also get worn, a combined wear pattern really lets that ball move down the housing substantially.

 

[juststartingout]

the problem is the new beckett is different from the old ones because they won't fit the old style injector housing. I have the old ones for many years now and never had to replace them....just curious how the ball on the beckett wears out.

Well, I have ordered a few. I'll have to see if their going to fit or fit with some modifications. Problem for me is that I want to upgrade my pump to a Hammerhead, so this cost plus new injector housings w/injectors will set me back about $650.00. Close enough to consider a needle wheel skimmer...

 

[scoly]

Guess I'm new to this club. I have a mr2 skimmer that I am running a mag 18 on and it works good. I just got the waste collector for it. Also have the cr2 cal reactor that I still have to hook up.

 

[juststartingout]

while you have it out, take the two halves apart and check out the dongle inside. it sort of looks like a wil-e-coyote lawn dart. this and the inside of the piece that splits in half are the parts that get slimed up and require periodic cleaning. cleaning salt creep etc from the rest of the housing feels good but doesn't seem to affect the performance of the injector at all.

Make sure the part that gets seated between the two halves is not worn. It has been my experience that it gets worn and then will not sit at the correct hight in the injector. I believe this may affect it's ability to draw air into it. Just my .02

 

[juststartingout]

Juststartingout has left the MRC Club and went to the dark side. I have an MRC MR-7R that I will be posting up on the selling forum if anyone is interested.

 

[Jeepboy5]

Looking for a used injector and extension riser for my mr-2

Looking for a used injector and extension riser for my mr-2

Looking for a used injector and extension riser for my mr-2 keep an eye out thanks

 

[countrykat]

I ordered a mr2 from champion lighting 2 weeks ago. They drop ship from mrc. I have emailed and called both sites several times with no messages or emails returned. Has anyone ordered through them and approximately how long does it take to be delivered. I really hope the product is worth every penny because the customer service is very subpar.

 

[Preston7]

I ordered a mr2 from champion lighting 2 weeks ago. They drop ship from mrc. I have emailed and called both sites several times with no messages or emails returned. Has anyone ordered through them and approximately how long does it take to be delivered. I really hope the product is worth every penny because the customer service is very subpar.

I've always got a quick response from champion. Maybe your email is going to spam? Call champion's 1-800 number and you should get someone immediately.

 

[countrykat]

I've always got a quick response from champion. Maybe your email is going to spam? Call champion's 1-800 number and you should get someone immediately.

Just called champion, they called mrc and it looks as if it will be delivered today. I like dealing with champion and always have. Forgot to ask if my email was going to spam though. Still doesn't make cense why mrc didn't return a email or phone call. They always returned my emails in the past.

 

[countrykat]

Well it was delivered about 7:30 last night. My son and I unpacked the 3' x 3' x 3' box. We put it together and all I can say is this thing is a beast of a skimmer. The picture on their site doesn't do it justice. It's huge.

 

[countrykat]

Ok skimmer has been up and running for 2 days to break in just like MRC site says. This morning I started shutting off the silencers to make the bubbles smaller but have yet get any kind of a bubble head. It's almost like the bubbles are not small enough to form a head.

Any suggestions?