Multiple Dwarf Angels?

PatrickFul10

PatrickFul10

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Hello, I've read that you shouldn't keep 2 dwarf angels in the same tank. I've also read that if you add them both at the same time, they will be ok.
Obviously you can add multiple if you have a 200 gallon tank, but mine is only a 55. I was wondering if people have any experience or opinions about this.
thanks :fish1:
 
I agree a 55 is probably to small for two. That being said, I currently have a flame and coral beauty in a 75 gallon cube. The coral beauty has been in there about 5 years and the flame was added about a year ago as a smaller fish.

The coral beauty is second in command ( a falco hawkish is boss). Aggression was about a day of chasing, they've gotten along fine since.

One thing with this tank is it has a fairly complex aqua scape with plenty of tunnels and escape routes around the live rock allowing the flame to keep out of the cb's way.

I probably got lucky this time and won't ever try it again in a tank this small. (That's why I'm upgrading to a 10 footer). ;-)

Francis
 
I should also add, whenever adding multiple angels together, make sure you have a "plan B", whether an arrangement to return the fish or somewhere else it can go if hostility is too much (i.e. a separate tank already running or a friend with room). I recently purchased a blue girdled angel that was being kept in a fuge because of aggression. A sad place to keep such a wonderful fish.
 
Ive got a flame and a potters in a 180. They chase and hassle each other pretty regularly but nothing serious. I doubt i would try it in a 55...thats perfect for one angel but to small for two.
 
400g

Flame,
Multicolor
Flameback (2)
Golden (2)
Mutli-Bar (2)

Trio of Belus

Everyone gets along and the Belus spawn pretty regularly.

Dave B
 
In the past my 58 had a multicolor, coral beauty and venustus for about a year.

After I moved (( just over 2 years ago )), I went with a 65, it now has the multicolored and coral. After about 2 months I moved my flame (( used to a pair, lost the smallest one in the move )) into that tank. They have been together for 2 years now.

The venustus is now in a 40 breeder, as the only dwarf, a bit too shy to be with other dwarfs in a smallish tank.

The current 65

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The old 58

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Hello Todd, good to see you.
I had to drain my 240 to get mine out, I had 4 and the experiment failed miserably. Others, like Todd and Dave have had great luck.
It's a crapshoot.
 
johnike said:
Hello Todd, good to see you.
I had to drain my 240 to get mine out, I had 4 and the experiment failed miserably. Others, like Todd and Dave have had great luck.
It's a crapshoot.
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Howdy John.

That sounds like it would be a pain.

I did try a golden dwarf and a potter's in the 58 --- that was a mess. Removing a dwarf from a fully stocked SPS tank is a PITA, so to the OP, be prepared to intervene if you have to -- if you aren't willing to take apart your tank, don't attempt. :)
 
There isn't any real answer for questions like this, IMO & IME., just shared experience and common sense. The common sense comes in when you add a DA to a tank with another DA and the fish is established and very territorial. This question comes up a lot and I think the only real reply is :the bigger the tank, the better the chances. I've kept 4 DAs in a 55 (years ago) with no problem. I've also had a 240 that failed with several combinations of just 2. I do think there is too much hype against it working, but always have a plan B. If you try to add one to an established tankmate: after the new fish has finished in QT, add him and put the established fish in the QT for a week or so. I think taking the territorial edge away greatly improves chances.
 
To add;

Would never attempt without using an acclimation box, to see how the (( if there is one )) existing dwarf angel(s) react --- I have left them in the box for up to a week.

Can see the box on the left side of the tank,

FTS11_19_10.jpg
 
lol, but don't forget there was a time we didn't have acclimation/isolation boxes...rearranging the rock, lights off, and observation ruled the day...
 
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Before my 400g I had a 125 for over a decade.

I kept flames, goldens, cherubs and flamebacks in it regularly. There were occassional multi-color and Venustus.

I have always kept lots of rock in my tanks. My 125 was a 24" tall tank and the rock went from bottom to top, So there was lots of hiding spaces for the little angels.

When I added the flamebacks to my 400g I bought one for myself and one for a friend. I put the second fish in the acclimation box till my friend could pick it up. Once the fish went into the box, the original flameback didn't leave the side of the acclimation box. After 5 days of the two fish sitting side by side (one in the box and one in the tank) I let my friend know he would have to wait for a flameback and released him into the tank.

Dave B
 
o2manyfish said:
Before my 400g I had a 125 for over a decade.

I kept flames, goldens, cherubs and flamebacks in it regularly. There were occassional multi-color and Venustus.

I have always kept lots of rock in my tanks. My 125 was a 24" tall tank and the rock went from bottom to top, So there was lots of hiding spaces for the little angels.

When I added the flamebacks to my 400g I bought one for myself and one for a friend. I put the second fish in the acclimation box till my friend could pick it up. Once the fish went into the box, the original flameback didn't leave the side of the acclimation box. After 5 days of the two fish sitting side by side (one in the box and one in the tank) I let my friend know he would have to wait for a flameback and released him into the tank.

Dave B
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What a great story, good decision
 
Currently, I still have my C. bicolor & my African Flameback in the 60 gallon mushroom/softy Reef.
There were fireworks the first week the C. acanthops ( I think that is the right binomial but could be wrong, going on my now Over the Hill Memory here!) was in there. The Bicolor had had free run of the tank & was more than twice the size of the AFB. However, things turned around. Actually, kind of glad that thing is not bigger!
Detente has since been reached.

Sincerely,
Matthew
 
thanks to everyone for all the good stories and tips. i may attempt it with an acclimation box. i do in fact have a plan b. i have a reef tank upstairs i could put one in.
 
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