My 10G nano Project Underay - Lots of Pictures!!!!!!

For clean up you need to focus on two zones:

The substrate and surfaces.

The substrate needs to be periodically stirred up or agitated. There are "sand sifting starfish"
that can do this very well, but they feed off of near invisible layers of algae that is most
common in established tanks. They will dig down in the sand and starve to death where they
pollute the tank. I would skip these for such a small tank.

For a small tank Narssarius Snails:

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work great. They are excellent detritus feeders, and love to scavenge uneaten food.
They hide under the sand during the day ( you might see their little noses sticking up
like a periscope) then at night they race around the tank (quite fast by snail standards)
eating all the left over food on the floor. They move the sand around while they do this.

MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T GET WELKS!

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They look almost the same, except for their siphons (nose). They have leopard like spots
on up and down the nose. They will eat clams and other sessile inverts.


For surfaces (rock or tank)

I like Emerald crabs. They are herbivores, and mow down hair algae or bubble algae
on rocks- and are fun to watch. They DO NOT like nitrates. They die quick if you neglect
water changes.

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As for smooth surfaces like the tank walls, any standard turbo snail will do.

I wouldn't go nuts with too many cleaners though. If you get a few Nassarius snails,
you might find they reporduce quite well in the aquarium. However in such a small
tank it's possible for them to run out of food. One crab or even two large turbo snails
could clean the rocks in your tank in a day or two! They work fast.

Small tanks can be great as long as you focus intently on religious water changes and water quality.
 
Thanks

Im going to get a few blue leg hermits an emrald crab if they have any as i quite like the colour and crabs do seem to have their own character used to keep freshwater crabs they were quite funny things, one ot two turbos and a few cerith or narssarius snails. Do you know anything about those bright orange star fish as the other half wants one is it doable in a 10G.

Ta

Ash
 
Oh yeah ment to mention shrimp what types are suited for this kinda tank i was also considering a shrimp goby collaboration for the 3G pico.

Ta

Ash
 
Hi all

Ended up getting some turbo snails today got 5 as there was an offer on, going to put sum in the 3g pico and may give 2 to my friend as 3 may be to much for this size of tank. Also got 2 hermits gonna get one of those emrald crabs when they are in stock and some snails as mentioned by digikill.

Done a bit of rock scaping what do you think also got my eyes on some zoas i seen on ebay think im gonna go with colourful zoas ricodas mushrooms themed tank. What kinda corals u guys keeping.

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Ash
 
So ive added a clean up crew and its amazing how well they do, i have 4 hermits an emrald crab who didnt no where to eat was in his element scurrying about the rocks pinching food from all places and he hasnt stopped yet some turbos aswell culdnt get any of those Narssarius Snails or cerith's heres a pic of the cleaned tank with a little help.

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whats with all these bubbles?

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Heres the emrald crab he's tiny not much bigger than a thumb nail.

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some hermits although one of them turned out to be just a shell.

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Oh and i couldnt help it heres my first fish, (a little marlin) as the partner says. Think that shold keep me happy for a few months also give the tank time to mature

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As for corals I plan on keeping a softie tank maybe? Mainly consisting of colourful zoos ricodas mushrooms etc

I went on a bidding frenzy on eBay and won these following zoos. ive asked the guy to pros pone shipping as im not going to be here much next week and would like to keep an eye on nitrates etc so if they do go up I can move things to the small Pico tank until its sorted anyway here’s some pics of the ones I won apart from the last two where I got outbid when I was out $%8# however the guy said he's getting another shipment so if he has ones like these will send them with my order so all is not lost.

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Hers the ones I really wanted

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yeah lovley unfortunaetly i didnt win it as i was outbid on eBay when was out reall ****ed at that one but the guy said he would keep one back for me when he gets his new delivery if he has one.

Ash
 
Oh Rosseau ment to mention your tank is looking good are you battling heat issues i was having trouble to remodled the MH hood setup so its not as close to the surface, made some venting holes and a silent pc fan and i must add the silent ones is what u need and as it sugest you cant here it.
 
I believe the bubbles are just pockets of gas from algae respiration. In older tanks with deep sand beds, pockets of hydrogen sulfide can form and become problematic. Your tank is too new for this. I wouldn't worry about it. Just stir up the sand to get them free.

Though with the amount of hair algae growing on your rocks you may want to get a phosphate test kit. Corals don't like phosphate- but algae love it! Phosphate is usually the keystone element in the algae life cycle. Just remember that small tanks can swing in composition VERY RAPIDLY. My first tank was about your size, and everything would go from good to bad in about a day.

Zoo's are great for a small tank, but than you have to limit how many fish "inches", or fish bio-load included in your tank. More corals (soft only, I don't think stony corals would work very well in such a small volume with fish) means less fish (As in 1 [one]) in a small tank.
I love their colors.

I just got a "Gold head goby" or Valenciennea strigata. It's fun to watch. He scoops up sand in his mouth, then chews it a bit, and finally dumps it out the gills like a waterfall of sand. Keeps my sand sparkle clean.
 
hey ash.havent had a chance to take pics cos my camera has gone AWOL lol,good progress tho on your tank.i would watch th emerald crab with nitrites/nitrates cos in my experience they tend to drop like flies if they start to climb!i have one in my tank too,very active little guy!i would get a few more hermits to help with the algea.the turbos in my experience are better at eating algea,go for the nasarius abit latter,they are good for shifting the sand bed around!man i am soooo envious of your zoos.i have some orange ones but really really want some purple or blue ones.maybe we can swap frags when they grow up abit ;).anyway ill try to sort some pics out of my setup for you ASAP,in the mean time keep up the hard work!
 
hi

So the clean up crew have worked miracles its sparkling with a little help cleaning the glass corners. My zoo's arive tomorow so will post some pics once in placeive spotted more which i think im gonna get deep purples, anyhoooo heres a pic of the nice clean tank.

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Heres some photos of zoo/corals im thinking of getting from coralsnbits phots also by coralsnbits there nice colours anyone know the names of the purple ones.

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do the sun corals need additional feeding.

Ash
 
sun corals need target feeding for best results...the best method ive seen is a old water/coke bottle with the bottom cut off.put the bottle over the sun coral and then squirt in whatever you're going to feed it.marine snow is good and as it gets bigger tiny bits of chopped up meaty foods.also sun corals do not need alot of light so on the bottom of the tank in a"shady" area would be ideal.they are predominantly night feeders but can be "trained" to come out during the day.in the wild the abudance of food is during the night hours, hence its nocturnal behaviour.but as i said with timed and scheduled feeding it will quickly become a greedy and gorgeous adition to you already flourishing tank!
 
as far as i know the zoanthid taxonomy is abit vague and at best of times in a state of chaos,leaving very few speciments that can be reliably identified.the pictures you have here look like they probalby belong to the genus Zoanthus.this encompases alot of the colonial anemones and button polyps we see in the aquarium trade.i think "purple"zoos is a fair name for the middle pics,although you will probably see them labeled as all sort in different LFS.i am not a taxonomist (i dont think even they quite know what they are doing with this) but imo its safe to describe them as you see them...blue zoos,green zoos,brown/orange zoos,yellow zoos etc etc
if anyone has a more reliable explaination please share...
 
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