My 264 gallon A.G.E. rebuild

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11065602#post11065602 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
And you still wen t with glass? And in Kalifornia? You have nads. That pic make me want to hurl.

The new tank is really sweet. I wish I had gotten glass myself. :)


WOW- I've never seen Eurobracing like that!! :lol:
Where's the duct-tape? :eek1:
 
Did a bit more uncrating after we got it onto more solid ground.
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3/4" acrylic overflow drilled for 2- 1 1/2" and 1- 1" bulkheads
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Overflow teeth set in the end pane of glass.
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This view shows the upper, right front corner. Starphire front, blacked out float glass end, 3/4" acrylic eurobrace, 3/4" black acrylic overflow. I love the mix of materials A.G.E. has been able to incorporate into building their tanks. Soooo, much design flexibility.

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Left end
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The next 2 shots shows the "end grain" from the 72"x25" Starphire front, and 72"x25" float glass rear panes. Huge difference in clarity.
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And my recently reworked water processing station, complete with pressure activated delivery pump and dual float top off for the reservoir. Just need to get a bigger pressure tank so the delivery pump cycles less frequently. Not really a huge issue, it only draws 4 watts.
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One of the local maintenance service techs called me the other day and told me about some Alk and Calcium post filters for RO he's been trying. They're designed for drinking water systems to buffer the product water and restore the ph above the neutral point. He claims his animals are "really stoked" after a water change it is doing "wonders" for his personal tank. I don't know how much stock to put in this as his water change method is to take 30 gallons from his 300 gallon system, let his top off reservoir refill in a few minutes and then add 11 cups of salt, then test s.g. I haven't been able to find much information about these via Google, but they certainly have my interest piqued.

More to follow

Marshal
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11068171#post11068171 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by naka
Marshal, congratulations on your new tank! I can't wait to see your new aquascaping.

Thanks James, me either! :rolleye1:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11068171#post11068171 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
Last big quake I was in, the floor in my house in BH rolled like a tsunami. No way a tank would have survived that!

We got a bit of that standing on the raft thing for about 60 seconds after the San Simeon quake took out most of the older masonry buildings in our town. We rattled pretty good too. I fully expected to lose mine as well but didn't. 3 of my buddies did.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11068171#post11068171 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jar*Head
I am working on my future tank for my future house in Colorado. Im looking at 84x48x24 Acrylic 1" all around. Im in the same boat with you on the CL... I have 3x6200, and two waveboxes... Please let me know how the CL work out for you. I have heard a few story about the ocean motion got stuck

That will be nice sized tank and an interesting build Steve, be sure and start a thread. Wish I had the room for that big, I would have in a heartbeat.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11068171#post11068171 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clownnrnd
So, has the forklift showed up yet

Yup, just got to figure out how to get the forklift through the front door now and I'll be styling. Trying to convince the wife that we need a double french door off the dining room :eek1: Not having much luck.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11068171#post11068171 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by i2ik
beautiful tank!

Thanks, I think so too. :D

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11068171#post11068171 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GMFett
very nice. hope you never have to bust out the tie downs again!!!

Amen Brother, you and me both.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11068171#post11068171 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by [__--MUD--__]
FYI- general public misconception.... Coffins are tapered like in the old dracula movies, caskets are rectangular

Casket, coffin, no matter, I'll still be buried in the darn thing. :fun2:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11068171#post11068171 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ConcreteReefer
WOW- I've never seen Eurobracing like that!!
Where's the duct-tape?

That's holding the glass to the pvc bottom. :eek2:

CAReefer
 
E, I've already picked up a new circulation pump (Sequence 3200) to feed the tank, frag tank and chiller, and a Dart for the closed loop. The 3200 will replace 2 mag drive type externals, moves more water (~2600 gph after HL) at 170 watts vs the 2 (1 @1190@0 HL and 1260 @4') at 210 watts combined. Eventually I may replace the 2 tunzes I'll start with for Vortech's but I have to recover first. And then I'll just get one and see if I can work it into my flow scheme. I'm going to add a FanTech exhaust fan into the upper cabinet and vent it outside rather than into the garage as it my 4" box fans do now. Too much rust happening on my GTO and tools in there. Got an idea for some moonlights, but may be a bust so I'll keep that little jewel to myself for now, building a rack for the LAIII's/VHO's and putting it on a pulley system and losing the chains. Other than that, I got the skimmer, CaRx, ballasts and everything else covered.

Oh yeah,
Going for a complete replumb too!
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Marshal
 
I would really like to know the story of the seam split too. I am interested in the A.G.E tanks but if the seam split, then I'm not too convinced about this whole new technology they have and the mixture of materials. I was convinced that I wanted one with the PVC bottom, but if the seams can't take the pressure, then I'd quickly change my plans. Please link to the disaster thread if you have a thread on it. I'm sure that something like this didn't go unposted.

Thanks
Aaron
 
Seam split

Seam split

Hey guys,

I saw CA Reefers' other thread in the local forum (SoCal). The tank that split was his old tank made by Lee Mar. This AGE tank is replacing the old tank...or at least that how I understand it.

BTW, CA, if you haven't sold the old tank, PM me and we can talk...
 
Whew, Thanx! I was hoping to get that clarified! I'm sure it was a fluke on Lee Mar's tank. I've heard some pretty good things about them.
 
Well, the tanks on the stand in the house! Biggest catastrophe of the day was we ran out of beer afterwards . More help than anticipated showed up. It helps when it's perfomance appraisal time at work and you're the boss.

I had concerns over laying the tank on it's back on furniture dollies to roll through the door, so I called A.G.E. this morning and was told it won't be a problem. Edward's 72x40 rimless was done that way. Even with that, I minimized the time spent on the furniture dollies. That was the best $22 I have ever spent . Those 2 little beauties worked like a charm. Rolled right over the threshold and we were home. Didn't have to carry that 580lb beast a single foot. Rolled it in, put it back on it's bottom on the dollies, and up she went. With 7 guys it was a breeze. The only way to move a big tank!

Seems as if all the God's smiled on me today, nothing got broke, chipped, scratched, herniated or pulled. Even the plumbing God's smiled on me for a change, as I got a bit of that done too. All of the holes lined up for the CL bulkheads and I had 1/4" to spare between the wall and the overflow. One lesson learned however; Don't try to make the bulkhead holes as small as possible. I used a 3 3/4" hole saw for the 1" and 4 1/2" for the 1 1/2". There wasn't enough room to get the channel lock pliers on the nuts to tighten them the requisite 1/2-1 turn after hand tight. I sacrificed an old 16" set the the bench grinder and now have a custom bulkhead wrench. The Hayward bulkheads are the only way to go guys, especially for closed loop applications. High quality pieces.

On to the pics.

It's hard to get the scale/size of the tank in pictures, but anyone that's seen a BK skimmer knows how big they are. The collection cup on my 300 Internal is as big around as a 5 gallon bucket and nearly 1/2 as tall. I'll get a better pic tomorrow with something else to better show the scale.

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Aaah, it fits!
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Barely
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Start of the return plumbing. This 1 1/2" line comes from the garage where my Sequence 3200 resides. Initially to be fed through an OM 4 way, but I gave the wrong dimensions for the holes in the bracing, so I'll split it into 4- 3/4" lines that are full open continuously, or something along those lines. I could enlarge the holes since the bracing is acrylic, but they're just so pretty and polished, I hate to.
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Starting to plumb the CL return lines. I have to yet move the CaRx into the garage and feed it from the chiller/frag tank line to make room for the Dart under the stand. I thought about putting the Dart in the garage and leaving the CaRx where it is, but I want to optimize flow in the CL.
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More to come.

CAReefer
 
Can't wait to see how this turns out!!

Is the arc in the bulkheads on the bottom a clue as to what the aquascaping might look like?
 
wow congratulation what a tank?at least California have something to compete with Texas where all the high end tank reside.

Are you going to transfer all the rock,water and corals over or start a new cycle? I assume the Leemar tank is still running...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11065602#post11065602 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
And you still wen t with glass? And in Kalifornia? You have nads.

I think that most wives call them the 'klick-klack toy' :mixed: :love2: :thumbsup: lol
 
Thanks all. I appreciate the positive feedback and encouragement.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11087735#post11087735 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ooja3k
Is the arc in the bulkheads on the bottom a clue as to what the aquascaping might look like
Yes, kind of the general outline, but more to promote the CCW flow pattern.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11087735#post11087735 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ycnibrc Are you going to transfer all the rock,water and corals over or start a new cycle? I assume the Leemar tank is still running...
The LeeMar tank is not running. All of my livestock has been struggling to survive for the last 3 months in a 200 gallon bin and my 90 gallon frag tank.
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I will fill the new tank with fresh ASW and start a cycle of sorts as IMHO, 240 gallons of water is too much to add to an exsisting system. I've lost too many pieces already to risk anymore by getting in a hurry at this point.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11087735#post11087735 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chainsaw5vent
Thanks for the belly laugh! :beer:

As a general update, I finished the CL plumbing yesterday and put enough water in the tank to run a leak test. After glueing the one return leg I completely forgot to glue, d'oh, CL work liked a charm. I do have one minor leak at one of the 1 1/2" valves to address. I'll take some pics this afternoon and update then. I'm waiting on some plumbing bits and pieces from USPlastics and 2Part Solution before I can start on the return and overflow sections. Those should be here Monday.

More to follow and thanks for being here.
CAReefer
 
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