My 320g SPS & Fish Collection

Fastfish:

Yeah, its unfortunate that angels get such a bad rep amonst us reefers. Even Centropyge ( nice flame pair BTW), most of which are fairly safe with SPS at least.
Yeah, I noticed the P. chrysus in your first set of pics. I've never seen one in a US tank. Also the scribbled..
Angels where what lured me back in the hobby, specifically looking at Flames! LOL.

Sincerely,
Matthew
 
The only angel I have experience with was my poor coral beauty, never bothered any of my coral's (mostly SPS), but I would still be hesitant in adding them to my new setup.

Yes I'm a coward!
 
I was thinking of getting around 12 bartlett anthias too, how do you find them?

Any chance you are selling frags? I would love to get some of yours! :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10804581#post10804581 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fastfish
I am a firm believer that keeping a well-balanced reef and maintaining stability are two critical keys to success in the long term for this hobby.
Amen! Number two thing i try to impress on people in the hobby. Right behind obsorbing as much information as possible.

I tried placing 4 Tunze 6100 Streams on the left side before. However, the flow was too strong which broke down all the fish waste, which then polluted and deteriorated the water quality.
I'm curious about your comment. I reley on a natural process (DSB) and skimming. Was this a limitation of the water flow through the overflow/skimmer, fish load, or just a method that you have chosen for nutrient control. I'm curious because I went with a DSB to help control a large fish load..?..?
 
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I noticed the lack of PE on the first pic in the thread...the blue millie. Is that from nipping from the angels? Obviously its healthy so i guess its kind of like nature where it retracts during the day from predators and at night?
 
What media are you running in your Deltec fluidized media reactor? Do you have any pictures of the pvc structure behind the rocks? I like the layered effect it gives.
 
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Sheol -
The same types of my angels have appeared on some previous TOTMs. Copp has trio spectacular Regals in his beautiful reef tank. He also has two Chrysurus Angel if i remember correctly. I think Doug from the Deltec forum also has one in his awesome reef tank as well. I believe having many angels in a reef tank is possible if we can do some research on the species and carefully selecting the right ones to suit your reef. I have very strict rules for fish selection. I also well planned the exact order to add my fish, to ensure their survival and minimize conflict. I will never buy a fish if I don't think it will survive in my tank for long term.

Conowynne -
I am feeding all my fish very well. They do occasionally nip at my SPS which don't show any damage. However, I wouldn't add any angels if my tank was not mature or was only stocked with a lot of frags.

Jason McK -
Thanks! You must be lot of fun with your new toy. :)

jkhchris -
Sorry,I missed your question. I don't have any frag waiting list. I haven't sold any frags for 1 and half years

fishdoc11, Dejavu, Unarce, kozmo02 -
Thanks so much!

i2ik - I acquired mine from a LFS. A school of anthias swimming in the open top areas of a SPS tank definitely adds a lot of life! At the moment, I don't have any frags to share. I haven't sold any frags for 1 and half years because I am always excited to observe the growth process of a frag to become a colony. If you see the 4th picture in the first page, I have had this Beckett tort for 3 years. I acquired it when it was only 1/2 inch!

lvreefer - One of the fundamental elements to run a BB setup is to use strong flow, in order to keep all the detritus in suspension. In turn, it will be removed by wet skimming or manually siphoning out from the sump or a particular area where the detritus is intentionally directed. Base on my experience, especially with so many fish, when I had 4 Tunzes in my tank, they did offer strong flow to my SPS but they also kept all the particles in suspension. They would break down all the fish poop right away and pollute the water. To illustrate it clearly, if you sink fish poop in a bucket of clear water, let it sink and then siphon it out. The water will be still clear. However, if you stir it, the water will become very dirty as it is now dissolved into the water. This is just a belief from my personal experience.

That being said, manual nutrient export is an important part of my tank to continually improve my water quality. By properly locating 2 Tunze in my tank, they are providing sufficient flow for all my SPS. At the same time, they are providing enough flow to keep all particles in suspension but directing (not breaking down) some fish poop to a particular area where I can easily siphoning out from the tank every other days.

I had a 20g SPS tank with DSB. It worked well for me at that time. However, I went with BB because I believe aggressive of nutrient export sounded promising for my ideal heavily stocked fish and SPS tank. I have been very pleased with my decision to go BB so far.

Keep in mind, this is just from my experience. I have seen many successful DSB tanks.

sivert55 -
I am using Rowalith C+, which is specially designed for Deltec fluidized Calcium reactors to achieve a high output for Alk and Cal. My reactor is providing around 60-70 dKh at the effluent now (almost straight stream at the effluent). I have been very happy with the results. I have yet to use my Kalk stirrer.

I like to have a variety of SPS in my tank so I have designed my LR structure to mimic a Japanese bonsai reef tank. It is always fun to watch my fish swimming on top of my sps. I will try to get a picture.

Serioussnaps -
I always pay particular attention to the polyp extension from all my SPS. It is part of my observation to determine their healthiness.
I occasionally notice my angels nipping at the tips. However, I hardly notice them nipping at the polyps except when a few of them were first introduced into my tank. As you mentioned, the lack of polyp extension is most likely due to natural retraction during the day from predators.

During the day, the polyps don't extend fully, but there is still decent polyp extension to indicate their good health. At night all the polyps are fully extended. I try to keep a constant eye on my SPS and I am only concerned if I don't see full polyp extension from them at night (light off).

I am feeding my fish very heavily. Also, I don't have any snails in my tank. All my fish act as my personal tank clean up crew! As long as the fish are well fed, they hardly taste test the polyps of my SPS and they STILL clean up everything. I will post better pictures of polyp extension from my SPS during day time soon.
 
All true, but how many TOTMs have all those angels in the same tank.
I am aware though, that the japanese are becoming experts at keep Angel community tanks. Don't think there are that many that are full reef yet. But you & a few others prove it can be done.
As regards chrysurus, I've yet to see one offered in a fish store, though I could find one online probably.

Oh well, more drool by my keyboard!

Matthew
 
Its nice to have the ocean in your home, great work and an inspiration to all us fellow hobbyists. Great photo skills. Thank you for sharing. TOTM material for sure.
 
Well, maybe I might finally see a P. chyrsurus afterall someday soon. My LFS just got a 6 lined angel (large juvi, nearly transformed). I bet they don't know how large this angel grows!

Matthew
 
Very nice tank, very nice selection of fishes, I am upgrading my 210 sps to a 375 BB SPS and I am going to do a similar model than yours, I will be following this thread closely, Thanks for sharing.

Rogger
 
invincible569 -
Thanks. And yes, I have quite a few fish on my list. :) The next fish which will be added to my tank is a sub-adult Imperator Angel. I prefer the sub-adult Imperator Angel from Christmas island but it is really hard to come by.

There is fish shipment coming in every week. Most of Imperator Angel in the shipment are big, full adult size or they are still at the juvenile stage. I have always been patient and careful in selecting the right choice of fish for my tank.


Sheol -
There are at least 7 LFS within 1 hour drive in my area. They always provide a great selection of corals and fish. One of the LFS has always been able to get excellent fish shippment every week. They even imported 3 Wrought Iron Butterflyfishs (C. daedalma) a few months back from Japan. The price was exceptionaly high tho.

As for Chrysurus Angels, it usually comes in once a month here. I noticed one just this past week.


mile sq. reefer -
Thanks. In fact, I am pretty new to photography, but I will try to learn as much as I can on the Photography forum, and take some more pictures to share.


Rogger Castells-
Congratulations on your upgrading. I will try to share as much as I can from my experience.
 
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