My Breeding attempt - Perculas:
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dazed
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Thanks; the gash seems to be doing ok from what i can tell, he has not stopped his duties with the nest at all; as a matter of fact he was busy last night helping with the hatch that happened in my reef.
The maroons are "bonded" i think is the correct term; and yes my hope is that they will become a mated pair in the future.
The maroons are "bonded" i think is the correct term; and yes my hope is that they will become a mated pair in the future.
rbrusletto
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Spent most of the afternoon reading up on this thread, I'll start one of my own, my tomato clowns laid their first clutch of eggs on tuesday. Awesome new maroons, hope everyone is OK from the accident, and hope papa's gash gets better soon!
dazed
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Very true; this pair has been at my lfs for a while in a small display tank next to the register, I have been asking/bending the owner's ear for a while to sell them to me as they were bonded already, I was worried that moving them from one tank to another could cause an issue but it did not. Besides they now have an anemone and they don't wander around very much at all now.
dazed
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Well i hope that my thread was a bit of help for you at least in some way; Thanks the maroon's seem to be nice & settled in, so now i get to play the waiting game and hope for eggs. Everyone is ok from the accident my wife's car is back to the family taxi duties, the bodyshop did a real good job of blending the work/paint. Best of luck to you with the new eggs.
dazed
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Update for me; well the last batch is still going strong and i noticed this time around that one or two of them have started their 2nd stripe this time around 35 days so much faster then my original 8 survivors (which some of them still do not have a 2nd stripe at all)
I have been thinking about setting up a growout system like rkelman & fb's; so i guess my questions are if i use 10g tanks what size plumbing should i use for the drains and return??
Would 1" on both work well?
Return pump what size pump would i need?
I like rkelman's ghetto sump idea with bio balls,heaters,skimmer & return pump all in one.
Any suggestion are welcome i am thinking of setting up (4) 10g tanks to start with.
I have been thinking about setting up a growout system like rkelman & fb's; so i guess my questions are if i use 10g tanks what size plumbing should i use for the drains and return??
Would 1" on both work well?
Return pump what size pump would i need?
I like rkelman's ghetto sump idea with bio balls,heaters,skimmer & return pump all in one.
Any suggestion are welcome i am thinking of setting up (4) 10g tanks to start with.
jmadison
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Having not seen rkelmans or fb's and not knowing so much about fry growout tanks, would it be easier to buy like a 40 breeder and cut some acrylic with 'comb cut' ends on top and bottom and make 4 compartments. Wouldnt that allow for more stable system and easier maintainence? you could also section off an area to run bioballs, and a skimmer.
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Congrats on the 2nd stripes!
I'll trade you a FULL gallon of bioballs for a HALF gallon of water with two fishies in it!
(I'm getting robbed by my math FULL Gal for a HALF gal but I'd let it happen 
)
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Congrats on the 2nd stripes!
I'll trade you a FULL gallon of bioballs for a HALF gallon of water with two fishies in it!
(I'm getting robbed by my math FULL Gal for a HALF gal but I'd let it happen )
rkelman
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"I have been thinking about setting up a growout system like rkelman & fb's; so i guess my questions are if i use 10g tanks what size plumbing should i use for the drains and return??"
The size of the tank depends on how many fish you are planning on raising.. If you are having 100 - 200 survivors then I'd say 10g is big enough but if you are having 200+ you are going to want 15g I think. (which is why I went with them) Also I read a thread about a guy that setup his growout with 10g tanks then replaced them all with 15g. I didn't want to buy them twice. I'm happy with the 15's
"Would 1" on both work well?"
A 1" drain isn't big enough to handle the flow from a 1" feed line. I'm running 3/4 feed and 1" overflows into 2 1/2" drain pipe.
"Return pump what size pump would i need?"
That depends on how many tanks you setup. I have a Eheim 1252 (I think) and I think 5 tanks will max it out. Its running wide open on 4 now. I think I may have to upgrade.
"I like rkelman's ghetto sump idea with bio balls,heaters,skimmer & return pump all in one."
Its not big enough.. I'm going to buy a bigger tote. Also I need to rework a better method for keeping the bio balls in place. Someday I'd like to setup a fuge / DSB and have a nice glass sump.
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The size of the tank depends on how many fish you are planning on raising.. If you are having 100 - 200 survivors then I'd say 10g is big enough but if you are having 200+ you are going to want 15g I think. (which is why I went with them) Also I read a thread about a guy that setup his growout with 10g tanks then replaced them all with 15g. I didn't want to buy them twice. I'm happy with the 15's
"Would 1" on both work well?"
A 1" drain isn't big enough to handle the flow from a 1" feed line. I'm running 3/4 feed and 1" overflows into 2 1/2" drain pipe.
"Return pump what size pump would i need?"
That depends on how many tanks you setup. I have a Eheim 1252 (I think) and I think 5 tanks will max it out. Its running wide open on 4 now. I think I may have to upgrade.
"I like rkelman's ghetto sump idea with bio balls,heaters,skimmer & return pump all in one."
Its not big enough.. I'm going to buy a bigger tote. Also I need to rework a better method for keeping the bio balls in place. Someday I'd like to setup a fuge / DSB and have a nice glass sump.
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dazed
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14194290#post14194290 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmadison
Having not seen rkelmans or fb's and not knowing so much about fry growout tanks, would it be easier to buy like a 40 breeder and cut some acrylic with 'comb cut' ends on top and bottom and make 4 compartments. Wouldnt that allow for more stable system and easier maintainence? you could also section off an area to run bioballs, and a skimmer.
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Congrats on the 2nd stripes!
I'll trade you a FULL gallon of bioballs for a HALF gallon of water with two fishies in it!
I don't much either about setting up the grow out area or what would be the best way to go about it i think i have to do some more reading and looking to see what everyone else has done.
interesting math equation you have there if i did not have to ship them you would have a deal
dazed
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14194366#post14194366 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmadison
BTW, when are we gonna split this thread for you?
I also think we might need some pics to 'prove' that you have got your 2nd stripes coming in
I just scrolled through and saw your maroons again, and I must say I LOVE their color! so vibrant!
I don't know on the split how big does the thread have to be?
Proof i can try and get a shot of them but no guarantees they don't hold still very well:lol:
Thanks; on the maroons, now that they are in my care, i would like to try and get the yellow to show a bit more especially on the female.
dazed
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14194705#post14194705 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rkelman
"I have been thinking about setting up a growout system like rkelman & fb's; so i guess my questions are if i use 10g tanks what size plumbing should i use for the drains and return??"
The size of the tank depends on how many fish you are planning on raising.. If you are having 100 - 200 survivors then I'd say 10g is big enough but if you are having 200+ you are going to want 15g I think. (which is why I went with them) Also I read a thread about a guy that setup his growout with 10g tanks then replaced them all with 15g. I didn't want to buy them twice. I'm happy with the 15's
"Would 1" on both work well?"
A 1" drain isn't big enough to handle the flow from a 1" feed line. I'm running 3/4 feed and 1" overflows into 2 1/2" drain pipe.
"Return pump what size pump would i need?"
That depends on how many tanks you setup. I have a Eheim 1252 (I think) and I think 5 tanks will max it out. Its running wide open on 4 now. I think I may have to upgrade.
"I like rkelman's ghetto sump idea with bio balls,heaters,skimmer & return pump all in one."
Its not big enough.. I'm going to buy a bigger tote. Also I need to rework a better method for keeping the bio balls in place. Someday I'd like to setup a fuge / DSB and have a nice glass sump.
I would guess that this last batch has around 100 survivors and it is my biggest one so far but if i think down the road and my gsm do lay eggs at some point then the 15g tanks sound like a better way to go from the start.
So are all 10/15g tanks safe to drill for bulkheads on the bottom?? or does it vary from manufacturer ??
I have never attempted to drill glass sounds a bit scary.
So you are using a 3/4" return line and 1" standpipes/bulkheads right?
Do you have a picture of how you tied in the 1" lines to the 2-1/2" drain pipe? Did you just use a tee with a reducer?
How many gallons does the current tote hold? sorry for all the questions
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100 so far. It will get better as time goes on I'm sure.
No they aren't all save. Mine are Miracles Aquariums if that helps any..
Drilling glass isn't hard. I bought a bit for like $15 on Ebay that works great.
Yes 3/4" return and 1" standpipes / bulkheads
I haven't taken a picture. I have a short 1" pipe coming from the bulkhead and it just sits inside the 2 1/2" T no adapers or anything. That way If I want to remove a tank for cleaning I can without unscrewing stuff.
The current tote is like 30g I think.
No they aren't all save. Mine are Miracles Aquariums if that helps any..
Drilling glass isn't hard. I bought a bit for like $15 on Ebay that works great.
Yes 3/4" return and 1" standpipes / bulkheads
I haven't taken a picture. I have a short 1" pipe coming from the bulkhead and it just sits inside the 2 1/2" T no adapers or anything. That way If I want to remove a tank for cleaning I can without unscrewing stuff.
The current tote is like 30g I think.
dazed
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Yeah i hope that the #'s will keep going up as well.
I think the ones at my lfs are from All glass aquariums.
I see what you mean with the short piece of pipe just sitting in the larger pvc, good idea to be able to pull a tank offline if needed.
With the current setup that you have do you still need to siphon & vacuum the individual tanks? or is the flow enough to get the junk to the overflows and be processed by the skimmer, etc?
I think the ones at my lfs are from All glass aquariums.
I see what you mean with the short piece of pipe just sitting in the larger pvc, good idea to be able to pull a tank offline if needed.
With the current setup that you have do you still need to siphon & vacuum the individual tanks? or is the flow enough to get the junk to the overflows and be processed by the skimmer, etc?
dazed
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I know what you mean, I clean mine every week as well and yeah they make a mess of things in just a short amount of time.
ok so i still will have to siphon the tanks individually not a big deal,
Do you still place a sponge filter in each of the tanks?/or is the sump filtration enough?
Do i have to use a separate air stone as well for each tank to make sure that the oxygen levels stay safe? or is there enough 02 provided by the skimmer and the water returning to the tanks?
So you have had some of them take a trip of faith:eek2: i was wondering about that as well.
ok so i still will have to siphon the tanks individually not a big deal,
Do you still place a sponge filter in each of the tanks?/or is the sump filtration enough?
Do i have to use a separate air stone as well for each tank to make sure that the oxygen levels stay safe? or is there enough 02 provided by the skimmer and the water returning to the tanks?
So you have had some of them take a trip of faith:eek2: i was wondering about that as well.
rEd86
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I just set up my system with about 120 1" perculas that I purchased from a breeder and yes, they have taken that ride down to the sump. :eek1: Since there are a few baffles in the sump I have been able to collect them in a net and put them back in the main tank before they made their way over to the return pump. They don't appear to be hurt in any way.
My overflows don't have any teeth so I don't know if having them would prevent it from happening. I've debated cutting some but I'm guessing the little guys would still find a way down!
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FB
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Dazed,
I have a deep sand bed as one of my tanks, so far this has worked great for Ammonia and Nitrite. I'm still waiting for it to help with Nitrate. So I don't put any sponge filters in any tanks. I do have the sponge from the mag 9.5 in my return area so it gets alot of flow so I'm sure that helps.
I don't keep airlines in each tank but probably should. In the event of a power failure (if battery operated) it could save your fish. If the power stays on the flow of water alone is enough to oxygenate your water even without a skimmer.
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