My Breeding attempt - Perculas:
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dazed
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Sandyc; free is always good isn't it
that was going to be my next question about the tank that had the heating issues & irregularities, but you guys already covered & answered it. I hope that with the lifereef on one side and the return (maybe 2 of them); (1) on the other side & (1) for the middle section combined with the dividers that i plan to make which will let the water pass through that the only heat issue will be the same one that i battle with now due to the placement of the tanks in my garage.
The sump will be a small 15g tank for now.
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Ok should have another hatch tonight. I have let the last 2 clutches go in my reef and both times they had a complete hatch on the 10th day. Tonight is the 10th day for the ones that are on the tile in my tank.
I have not had the best of luck with getting them to hatch all in one night using the airstone method. I think this time around i am going to try more bubbles than before and see if i can get them to all hatch the way they do in my tank when i do not interfere with them any thoughts?
I have not had the best of luck with getting them to hatch all in one night using the airstone method. I think this time around i am going to try more bubbles than before and see if i can get them to all hatch the way they do in my tank when i do not interfere with them any thoughts?
dazed
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Well last night's attempt with using more bubbles than normal seems to have a mixed result as far as i can tell, I only had a chance to peak in on them before coming to work this morning. There are only maybe 10-15 eggs still on the tile so i would guess and say that over 90% of them hatched last night, but i already did see some white dead ones on the bottom of the tank, I know that they did not starve as they are probably only a couple of hours old at this point, any thoughts on why the early losses?
dazed
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Thanks for the good vibes
I have 2 reasons as to why i have not used the larvae catcher in a while, 1: my female went back to accepting the tile as a nest site & 2: the 1 to 2 hours hatching after lights out does not seem to apply to my eggs, they seem to take much longer, and when you use the catcher you have to shut down your reef and wait. It's like having a power outage and we all know what can go wrong with that.
With the tile i can pull them out a couple of minutes before lights out on hatching night, I like to leave them in the care of papa for the longest amount of time.
dazed
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I don't really know an exact number on the eggs seems to kind of vary from each clutch anyway, The white ones on the bottom are fry for sure they have hatched just don't seem to live very long. It seems that i have the highest amount of losses right after the hatch. I know they did not starve in that short amount of time. So it must be from transfer damage i guess, even though i am as careful with them as can be. If i can figure out what is causing my hiccup during the hatching process my numbers from each clutch would go up dramatically
FB
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I am having the exact same problems the last couple of hatches. They hatch and then die probably not even 18 hours. Like you said they should not starve in that amount of time!
For the batch that is hatching tonight I used 100% new saltwater. The eggs do not need to acclimated just make sure temp and salinity are close. I will update my results when I know them. About 8-10 hatched some time today and are still alive so...so far it looks promising.
Good Luck Dazed hope you figure it out!
FB
For the batch that is hatching tonight I used 100% new saltwater. The eggs do not need to acclimated just make sure temp and salinity are close. I will update my results when I know them. About 8-10 hatched some time today and are still alive so...so far it looks promising.
Good Luck Dazed hope you figure it out!
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jmadison
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Do you think that this happens in nature? Sorta a 'still born' like thing? I would imagine it could be possible seeing as how there are so many eggs in a clutch and the whole survival of the fittest thing. I would imagine prob less than half of the viable eggs hatch fish that reach meta.
dazed
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Fb, yeah i would narrow down the 18 hour window to somewhere around 9 to 10 hours for this last batch for me, I thought about it some last night and i am guessing that it could be one of two things, either transfer damage although i don't know how i could be any more careful then i am now when i move the tile into my 5g tank. I remove the tile from my reef place it in a tupperware dish and walk it out to my garage and place the tile into the tank for hatching, adjust the bubbles, add the rot's & rotifer diet, and in the morning i have swimmers & i have allot of dead larvae as well. I am currently using water from my reef in the 5g tank.
The other issue could be the feeding of the parents i guess as i have cut back on what i have been feeding my reef due to the ha outbreak that i am trying to deal with. So far these are the only 2 things i can think of that may be playing a part of the issue.
I checked on my new batch this morning (i have been having a rotifer shortage to deal with for the first time) and most of the swimmers in there looked to have silver belly's and the rot population has seemed to pick up in there a bit over last night so i am hoping that i can pull this batch through with what i have.
dazed
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I bet it does, take for instance my first group of survivors i still have the 8 of them and they are all different in terms of development, there are two of them in that tank (well over 6 months old) that if i were to remove them and place them in my current 2nd batch that is going (around 30-40 days old i think) and if i were to close my eyes for a long blink i am pretty sure that the two of them would blend in with the other batch and i would not be able to tell who is who.
dazed
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Good news bad news update; I was running low on my rotifer diet and had already placed an order with reed for some more, i live very close to them so shipping is usually only one day, well due to a computer glitch and the fact that i placed my order using a gift card (visa) the order had not processed and got hung up in the system, i had expected to receive my rd on thr. but placed a call on friday morning to reed to ask about what had happened, long story short they got it sorted all out and shipped my rd to me on sat. So once again reed has come through for me with great customer service.
I also had the neat experience of seeing my first fishball from my baby clowns, i removed the cover around their tank and they instantly formed into a ball of moving fish pretty neat just to sit there and watch them move in a group.
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The bad news i lost every single one of my newest batch that seemed to be doing fine, For the first time i have been dealing with a low rotifer count but the ones in the tank were 5 days old with silver belly's, no ammonia on the badge, etc, they were fine in the morning & gone by the time i got home from work, not sure if it was the low count of rot's or something else.
I also had the neat experience of seeing my first fishball from my baby clowns, i removed the cover around their tank and they instantly formed into a ball of moving fish pretty neat just to sit there and watch them move in a group.
The bad news i lost every single one of my newest batch that seemed to be doing fine, For the first time i have been dealing with a low rotifer count but the ones in the tank were 5 days old with silver belly's, no ammonia on the badge, etc, they were fine in the morning & gone by the time i got home from work, not sure if it was the low count of rot's or something else.
FB
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That sucks, how old is the ammonia badge. I find they stop working properly after a while.
I just ordered some rotifer diet from Reeds Canadian supplier. Ordered it yesterday @ 1:00pm. It was delivered this morning at 11:00 am. Can't wait to try the stuff.
Nice pics by the way.
FB
I just ordered some rotifer diet from Reeds Canadian supplier. Ordered it yesterday @ 1:00pm. It was delivered this morning at 11:00 am. Can't wait to try the stuff.
Nice pics by the way.
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rkelman
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Bummer Dazed. I find they can stop working before a year. You can test how reactive it is by holding over a bottle of ammonia or ammonia based cleaner. It should react almost instantly. I just had one go bad this week. I put a new one in and was scrambling to do a water change.
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