My Breeding attempt - Perculas:

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14683298#post14683298 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by billsreef
I can pull them right from here. Thank you for their use.

That is the first time I've seen a clutch laid before the last clutch hatched, in clownfish.

Your welcome, so you have seen this with other species then? Leave it to my clowns to do something completely different.:lol:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14683669#post14683669 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SirVilhelm
Wow 40 pages, I will have to go back and read it all but for now I am tagging along.

Hope you like it but it is a bunch of ups & downs with some pictures and some success.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14683882#post14683882 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rkelman
After this one is full you'll get a split. Woot!

I am trying:D (just want to be a cool kid to like Fb:lol:

I think it's funny this thread has way outpaced my build thread.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14683988#post14683988 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dazed
Your welcome, so you have seen this with other species then? Leave it to my clowns to do something completely different.:lol:

There are some species that will constantly lay eggs throughout the breeding season, instead of laying a batch, tending them and not laying again till after the batch hatches. Royal Gramma's are one example that comes to mind.
 
You might as well try drilling a few more holes with the rest of the tank to see how it goes. You still have 4 more surfaces to play with.

And I've never seen a double clutch either. I'm surprised the new eggs were gone - I wonder if the male ate them to protect the others that were almost ready to hatch?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14684898#post14684898 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rkelman
You guys are smoking my thread lol. I'm not having enough trouble apparently.

:lol: That's not a bad problem to have though.

I would rather have my grow out tanks packed full and looking real good like yours as compared to some pages on a thread.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14685291#post14685291 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by billsreef
There are some species that will constantly lay eggs throughout the breeding season, instead of laying a batch, tending them and not laying again till after the batch hatches. Royal Gramma's are one example that comes to mind.

I did not know that, thanks for the information. Do you have any suggestions as to what i need to look at to get my clutches back on track? The last couple of attempts have all been complete losses by day 5 or so, this last batch was 12 days old & eating bbs & oto a and then gone, the water was slightly cloudy though so the last one may have been a bacteria bloom.

I am just a bit confused as i have raised some but lately been having some kind of hiccup in the process, i mean they are in tinted water & surrounded by rotifers with decent water quality but they just keep dropping off?
 
Might pay to shorten the photo period and drop the temps a bit to give them break for a month or so. Let them recuperate a bit, fatten them up, than bring the temps back up and the photo period back to summer and get them spawning again with some fresh vigor.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14685671#post14685671 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
You might as well try drilling a few more holes with the rest of the tank to see how it goes. You still have 4 more surfaces to play with.

And I've never seen a double clutch either. I'm surprised the new eggs were gone - I wonder if the male ate them to protect the others that were almost ready to hatch?

I should have done some more practice on the broken tank but i tossed it and did my wc's on the larvae tanks instead.

I don't know if he ate them or not, but i think that they were knocked loose while he was fanning the ones that were ready to hatch. The reason i think that is what happened is because the area where the nests overlapped is where the new eggs were lost, i still have some of the (new) nest but only like 10% or so.
 
"I would rather have my grow out tanks packed full and looking real good like yours as compared to some pages on a thread."

You'll get there. I agree with Billsreef I think it may be a broodstock issue not a water issue. You could try some methylene blue in the water as a second suggestion. Although I've had bacterial problems in the stand alone tanks as they get older (3 months) I've never had any at the larvae stage. Its quite possible though. The bacteria I have is not necessarily the same as yours so it will in turn act differently. IMO..
 
I have been thinking about what Bill mentioned and you guys might be on to something, My breeding pair is in my dt which has been having a hair algae and cyano issue lately, i have cut back on the feedings so maybe that's the link. I do try and target feed the female as best i can she comes right over and will eat out of my hand maybe she is missing something from her diet that she was getting before, I have thought of moving the perc's to their own tank which would allow me to feed them more but i like having them in the dt and so do my kids. My wife wanted me to switch the pair of perc's for my pair of GSM but i don't want to; my perc's are mellow the female gsm not so much, lol.
 
That cut back in feeding could well be the problem. Parental nutrition is very important to the early survival of the larvae.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14691789#post14691789 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dazed
I have thought of moving the perc's to their own tank which would allow me to feed them more but i like having them in the dt and so do my kids.

replace the parents in the display tank with some grown out babies. you'll get the mellowness of the percs, won't cost anything, and will have the added pride of having played midwife to some of your display tank's occupants.

it does end up making life a lot easier to have parents in a non-display tank setting, but like almost everything in this hobby...personal preference (and keeping those you live with happy enough to tolerate your hobby) has to be part of the equation.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14692353#post14692353 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by billsreef
That cut back in feeding could well be the problem. Parental nutrition is very important to the early survival of the larvae.

I had thought that i had skated around the issue by keeping my biggest offender a Naso tang at bay and pre-occupied with a piece of nori, while she comes over to the other side of the tank and eats at the surface perhaps i need to re-think on this issue.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14692637#post14692637 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by heap
replace the parents in the display tank with some grown out babies. you'll get the mellowness of the percs, won't cost anything, and will have the added pride of having played midwife to some of your display tank's occupants.

it does end up making life a lot easier to have parents in a non-display tank setting, but like almost everything in this hobby...personal preference (and keeping those you live with happy enough to tolerate your hobby) has to be part of the equation.

Now that's an interesting idea. and yes keeping everyone happy is usually a good thing.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14693589#post14693589 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rkelman
"and keeping those you live with happy enough to tolerate your hobby"

Amen.

Very true statement isn't it.
 
I was thinking some more last night about moving the pair into there own tank. Some questions; would it be better to move them when they have eggs on the tile? or wait until the clutch has hatched and then move them and hope that she lays in the new tank, or does it not really matter either way, and she is either going to continue with her normal routine or get spooked and possibly stop laying eggs for a bit.
 
I'd wait till the eggs hatch, unless you want to artificially incubate the eggs if needed.
 
I occassionally let a clutch hatch out in the parent tank and it seems that the next few clutches of eggs look somewhat bigger. I guess it has something to do with letting the parents get back to "nature" (which may also help if you move the parents to another tank). I agree with Bill, parent nutrition is very important so you can't skimp on their food. Maybe try feeding less but more often.

--Barbara
 
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