My CBB Died :(

[Barfly]

Here is some helpful info I found

* Adding livestock to your tank may prompt another mini-cycle, which is why you should only add a few fish at a time and wait for ammonia and nitrite to fall to zero again before adding more fish.

* If you do not see the initial ammonia and nitrite spike, you may need to give the process a little nudge. Try adding a raw table shrimp in a net bag (pantyhose work great). The decomposing shrimp should get the cycle started.

* Although so people will tell you to cycle your tank by adding a hardy fish such as a damsel, don’t do it. While the fish may survive, such a practice is archaic and is really nothing short of torture.

* Each tank is different, and cycling times may vary depending upon the quality of the live rock and many other factors. Make sure you to monitor the water quality—that is the only way to truly know if your tank has cycled.

 

[Dyraxe]

I was thinking a clown goby or something. While damsels and chromis are hardy, I don't want an aggressive damsel with the stocking plans I have, and I just plain don't like chromis, haha.

I don't care for damsels either but you can always give them away or take it back to the fish store. They are only 4 dollars usually and compared to a more expensive fish its a steal. Get a nice fish trap and you wont have to mess with catching them for the most part they are greedy feeders and catch themselves in my trap. I made 2 different trap sizes out of acrylic for just this type of stuff.

 

[RARA]

mine also died after 3 months..

 

[adam82]

that sucks dude. i've had mive for just over 2 weeks and seems to be fine now. he is eting brine shrimp, mymsis shrimp, picks out whatever he wants out of the rods, and pellet. he also picks like crazy on the rock. my tank has been up and running with fish for almost 2 years.

 

[amheck]

have any of you tried or considered using pazipro?

 

[stepnic2]

There are lots of beautiful and hardy fish to choose from. Why buy a fish that almost always dies? I also think it's irresponsible for fish stores to sell them. Just sayin'!

 

[SwampyBill]

have any of you tried or considered using pazipro?

I've used Prazipro for my bipartitus & maleagris leopard wrasses with good success.

 

[chimmike]

I would've quarantine'd this guy but I bought him from FAOIS and they're good about livestock.

Lesson learned.

 

[Dyraxe]

prazipro is good for deworming wrasses.

 

[mattliu]

The problem with these arguments is a lack of mutual definition. If you couldn't set up a tank in a day and fill it completely with livestock, no one would ever be able to move a tank.

If Mike had sufficient bacterial populations and used live water (i.e. Rockin Reef) there's no reason he wouldn't be able to add a copperband on day 1 with long term success.

1) It's possible his tank was "cycled."

2) It's possible the fish received too much "juice" during capture.

 

[SwampyBill]

The problem with these arguments is a lack of mutual definition. If you couldn't set up a tank in a day and fill it completely with livestock, no one would ever be able to move a tank.

If Mike had sufficient bacterial populations and used live water (i.e. Rockin Reef) there's no reason he wouldn't be able to add a copperband on day 1 with long term success.

1) It's possible his tank was "cycled."

2) It's possible the fish received too much "juice" during capture.

Live water...? You're joking, right? That's just some ploy for unsuspecting people to buy waste water from stores water changes...Who wants that in their tank...? Moving a tank in a day is quite possible; setting a new one up in a day & filling it with livestock is a completely different story--Apples vs. oranges...
CBB's are extremely delicate fish & it was very possible too much cyanide was used during capture or tank wasn't quite cycled yet. Either way, it's a shame to lose livestock; esp. such a beautiful fish.

 

[chimmike]

I've been told Oodinium is a good possibility as well.

Regardless, it was a great fish and was displaying some cool personality even in the short time I had it. Depressed me for a day.

Bill, you still want that refracto? I've still got it

 

[SwampyBill]

Yea, most definitely still interested in the refractometer, Mike; just getting the pickup time down is the problem.

 

[mattliu]

Bill,

I'm dead serious about live water. It's very similar to live rock and live sand.

Moving a tank and an instant cycle is apples to apples, granted it may be fujis and honey crisps due to chronology.

Let's say you're moving a 100 gallon tank. You use 50 gallons to transport corals, fish and live rock, while having 50 gallons of synthetic sea water waiting at your destination. You are basically doing a 50 % water change.

Let's say you buy 50 gallons of live water and make up 50 gallons of salt water. You take cured live rock that is capable of completing the Nitrogen cycle. Set up the tank.
Add a livestock load that does not exceed the capacity of your bacterial population's waste processing power. This is also the equivalent of a 50 % water change.

If you have a coral tank and fish tank, use the water exchanged from your coral tank to replace water removed from your fish tank. Waste water is a relative term.
Heck, Wally used to come in all the time to get live/waste water from Johnny.

 

[Camryn1]

Bill,

I'm dead serious about live water. It's very similar to live rock and live sand.

What beneficial bacteria and algae species is free floating in live water?
Partial list is fine...

Let's say you're moving a 100 gallon tank. You use 50 gallons to transport corals, fish and live rock, while having 50 gallons of synthetic sea water waiting at your destination. You are basically doing a 50 % water change.

having done just what you mention many times, I would remind you that the longer "live rock" and "live sand" sit in a bucket, the more die off you get... when you buy live rock (even off a friend) you have to err on the side of caution and assume quite a bit of die off if the rock has been out from under lights etc.

 

[SwampyBill]

I get FRESH MADE RO/DI water from FAOIS weekly as I don't have an RO/DI unit yet. But under no circumstances am I putting someones waste water from their water change in my tank; esp. not any store's water, considering all the possible diseases in it from wild-caught fish & medications they treat them with. But what you put in your tank is your choice, Mattliu...Good luck!

 

[TampaReefer79]

I use tap water. Just sayin'.

 

[SwampyBill]

I use tap water. Just sayin'.

Yes, we know...

 

[SwampyBill]

I use tap water. Just sayin'.

& heard about it ad nauseum in another thread recently....:hammer:

 

[TampaReefer79]

& heard about it ad nauseum in another thread recently....:hammer:

Really? Which one...cus I don't remember mentioning it recently...