my house reef (211 g.)

[Stormtrker]

Thanks for the info iwan. Think I'll leave the ZeoSpur alone!:eek2:
Carla

 

[TryTheChi]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6968854#post6968854 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by h20cooled
Simon,
I have a CA reactor and my Cal, Alk, and Mag is right on target. Also the salt I use is very good and tests out great. I think as long as I'm doing my water changes on a regular basis all of the other elements should be fine...

Rich

Great - . Its interesting the effect Nightsun are having on Iwans tank - and his Ca/DKH/Mg are spot on and he also does water changes - we'll see what happens with mine...

There is a Zeo thread on RC where CAreefer has put up some b/a images with his dosing of KB and CV - very impressive too. CAreefer used zeo ZB4 or 18 months before trying KB and CV - so its pritty clear - whichever probiotic method of nutrient control is used - elements can take color further too. Have a look and let us know what you think?


http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=793081&goto=newpost


Cheers

SImon

 

[TryTheChi]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6968911#post6968911 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
Simon, you mention low nutrient often. Since I'm about to try this product myself, it should be interesting to see if it does anything in my tank. As many know, I feed heavy and skim harder.

Very much look forward to before /after pics Marc What are your current NO3 and PO4 readings? Thats a nice tank you have - are you taking some close ups on a range of corals?

Cheers

Simon

 

[melev]

Yes, I will. My 280g thread in Reef Discussion is approaching 300 pages after 1.5 years of documentation, and there are lots of pictures posting progress, but I'll take a fresh set before I dose the product. I could post them in my thread, then put a link to my thread in this thread to avoid cluttering this one up too badly.

I'll also post the images in my Log on my site, so I can do the comparisons more easily on my own pages.

My nitrates are around 7 to 10ppm, and PO4 was .5 at the more recent test.

So what color will this coral be in the future?

 

[firerock]

This is quoted from Daniel Gan's (danano) TOTM thread back in March 2005, and this is what he said about T-5 compared to MH.

The T5s have worked really well for me. Colours are somewhat more pastel. Main differences I see compared to MH tanks are less intense purples although I really like how the purple humilis turned out - which has almost doubled in size in the past year.

I am just wondering if anyone has experienced similar effects after changing from MH to T-5. Is it impossible to keep some intense SPS colors under T-5s without dosing a bunch of supplements? I believe that Daniel only doses Iodine & Amino Acids. Thanks.

 

[einsteins]

Hi all

Just wondering if we are going to have another thread for documenting results of prodibio use.
Anyone hear from a moderator about what happened to the other thread someone tried to start?

einsteins

 

[tangblack]

I am just wondering if anyone has experienced similar effects after changing from MH to T-5.

I have used t5s and metal halides. Currently running t5s with halides on my main tank and t5s only on my sump tank.

My experience is that t5s work great for some coral but not all, the same goes for metal halides.

With t5s you do tend to get more pastel colours and for me using t5s only just made the tank not look real.

I do note that seriatapora and pocilopra corals seem to love the t5s as I was getting great growth with them.
My other observation is that t5s need to be replaced within 12 months as some coral would start to die. I donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t know if it is because the colour shift or the bulbs realising more UV when they get old.

Here is a pic of my red monti under t5s without the halides on

Here is the same coral under metal halide and t5s. photos are about a week apart and the monti has coloured up a bit since.

 

[TryTheChi]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6972212#post6972212 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev


I'll also post the images in my Log on my site, so I can do the comparisons more easily on my own pages.

My nitrates are around 7 to 10ppm, and PO4 was .5 at the more recent test.

So what color will this coral be in the future?

Marc - I'v followed through on your links - holy moses - you've a whole sizable chunck of the www ! ..... I like the podcast idea - listened to episode 1 - great stuff - entertaining banter and good quality info - although in the light of your impending prodibio experience - it will need updating Thats all a great resource for people - thanks.

I'll send you a skype question soon

As for the impact on the coral you posted - it may go a lovely light beige tiped with white crystaline patterns - quite rare these days

Cheers

SImon

 

[h20cooled]

Marc,
That coral you posted look exactly like the one I have, it is a Valida or Bonsia coral. They are supposed to be a nice bright purple with green polyps. Here is a pic of mine:

 

[melev]

I'm sure as soon as we get a spot to talk about Prodibio, a link will be posted in this thread. I can tell you this for a fact, we can discuss it all we want as hobbyists. The vendor can't talk about it because of it being a commercial interest. He can't link to his site, nor quote portions of his site here. Since the vendor in question has applied to be a sponsor, I don't think it will be that long before we get the news.

<b>Simon</b> - We could talk via Skype some time, especially since our hours are opposing and I'm up late night. The first episode sounds horrible due to a really poor-quality microphone, which was quickly replaced by Evan within a week. There are 4 episodes available, with Episode 5 coming online hopefully by the end of the weekend. I did mention Prodibio and the site you can learn about it in this episode, but I'll definitely have more to say about it now that I'm using it. Btw, if any of you hear of something new (site, product, ideas, etc...) you can PM or email me and I'll be sure to mention it on the show. I'd like to keep it very up to date with the latest news, when possible.

<b>h20cooled</b> - it does look exactly like mine. I called mine a Tyree valida LE for a long time, and people kept correcting me. I just call it a Tyree now. :lol:

 

[brentp]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6974497#post6974497 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tangblack
I have used t5s and metal halides. Currently running t5s with halides on my main tank and t5s only on my sump tank.

My experience is that t5s work great for some coral but not all, the same goes for metal halides.

With t5s you do tend to get more pastel colours and for me using t5s only just made the tank not look real.

I do note that seriatapora and pocilopra corals seem to love the t5s as I was getting great growth with them.
My other observation is that t5s need to be replaced within 12 months as some coral would start to die. I donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t know if it is because the colour shift or the bulbs realising more UV when they get old.

Which ballasts are using? I'm getting ready to replace my T5 bulbs, but they have been running for almost 2 years and I have not had any problems. I'm running them on IceCap 660's, so they are over driven and have obviously lasted a long time.

 

[iwan]

Hi Brentp

in Europe we mostly do not use over driven T5 lights. Complete lights of very good quality are available here.
The first time as I heard about ballasts and over driven T5-lights was here in this forum.
I lack the empirical values to be able to make statements to this topic.

 

[tangblack]

Which ballasts are using?

I use the standard ballast that come with the unit. might be osram.

T5s will runs 5years plus, but that is not the issue ,it is the colour shift. when you place a old bulb next to a new bulb you can see a big difference,

Overdriving your bulbs will make them last shorter.

 

[h20cooled]

tangblack,
That is not true the overdriving the bulbs will shorten the life. Icecap tested the bulbs at the beginning of use and then after a year and they had only lost 10% of the power which happens on all ballasts. So, overdriving them with an Icecap 430 or 660 does not shorten the life.

 

[brentp]

Tangblack,

I was asking because you said some corals started to die and I know some ballasts are harder on the bulbs than others. There are ballasts being used in T5 fixtures that really were not designed for T5 use.

I have no doubt that my bulbs are not as bright. Are they 10% or 15%, I don't know. I do know that I'm still getting good growth and color and things are not dieing.

Brent

 

[tangblack]

power is a bit different to colour shift.

 

[tangblack]

do know that I'm still getting good growth and color and things are not dieing.

I never said that t5 will kill your coral. i said it can happen if the bulbs get old.
I have had this happen many times with old bulbs.

maybe iwan can find information on this are he is on the german forums.

 

[h20cooled]

I could see a slight color shift happening, but after reading many many pages of studies with icecap ballasts and others, it was shown that they DO NOT decrease the life of the bulb or color any more then a NOT over driven bulb.

 

[firerock]

My experience is that t5s work great for some coral but not all, the same goes for metal halides.

With t5s you do tend to get more pastel colours and for me using t5s only just made the tank not look real.

I do note that seriatapora and pocilopra corals seem to love the t5s as I was getting great growth with them.
My other observation is that t5s need to be replaced within 12 months as some coral would start to die. I donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t know if it is because the colour shift or the bulbs realising more UV when they get old.

Here is a pic of my red monti under t5s without the halides on

Here is the same coral under metal halide and t5s. photos are about a week apart and the monti has coloured up a bit since.

Thanks for your reply.

I believe that Iwan said if T-5 bulbs are not changed in 6-9 months, the growth of corals will slow down dramatically.

I actually like your red monti under T5s only. It looks very red. Under MH it looks more brown. Maybe that's the color it supposed to be?

I second that the seriatapora and pocilopora corals absolutely loves the T5s. They grow well and their colors are just beautiful. Do you know what other SPS colors holds well under T5s only? I have not have luck with purple, but green, red, and some blue seems to be OK so far.

Thanks.

 

[h20cooled]

Check out that tank of the month and Iwans, they all have amazing colors under T5.