My Sump\Fuge Design - which do u think is better? (Pic)

[Gooli]

I'm doing a new 30g long sump.
Which of these designs do u like better?

My current sump has Design B....but im thinking that Design A may be better because the water has to travel down through the LR to get to the return pump - one less baffle - less bubbles.
what do u think?

 

[SirLight1337]

where is the skimmer going ?

I think i like design B better as it would make a good fuge. for a straight sump a would be fine.

 

[Gooli]

sirlight...the skimmer is on the left of course
not sure i understand your logic about A being better for a fuge - u mean because i can have a DSB?

 

[hipertec]

does anyone know where the right location for a skimmer is suppose to be at? is it where the water comes into the sump or right before the return pump?

 

[Gooli]

skimmer is best in the drain area

 

[glaudds]

Is that return area drawn to scale? If you don't have an auto top off, I would make the return area as big as possible to lessen the effects of evaporation.

 

[Gooli]

glaudds....i hear ya...its not to scale here...my return area will hold 5 gallons or more

 

[hipertec]

drain area..is that the water coming into the sump?

 

[Gooli]

yes..that's pretty much standard to sumps\refuges

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7003488#post7003488 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hipertec
drain area..is that the water coming into the sump?

 

[drake66]

you should get a sump like gabriel (bebo) its like NASA designed it for him :rollface:

 

[Bui]

I wouldnt design it like that...You don't need that many baffle where the water come into the sump.. First if you have too much flow, then you should create another chamber for the refugium. Refugium work best when there slow flow. If you don't alot of flow then one baffle would be plenty. Just make sure you have teeth in it.

 

[Gooli]

Drake - i hear ya...Gabriel went all out on his sump!

Bui....removing the baffles from where the water comes in will just speed up the flow into the refugium...not sure that makes sense

 

[Bui]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7006841#post7006841 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gooliver
Drake - i hear ya...Gabriel went all out on his sump!

Bui....removing the baffles from where the water comes in will just speed up the flow into the refugium...not sure that makes sense

The baffle doesn't reduce the flow what it does reduce is the turbulence of the water...and I still think one is plenty...save more space/arcylic for something else.

 

[gcarroll]

What do you plan on keeping in the fuge. Is it for algae export, pod breeding grounds or both. There are many ways to keep a fuge. This is the way I would do it.

algae export only- go barebottom w/ high flow, use chaeto, provide enough flow to keep the chaeto tumbling. Once the fuge is full remove half of the chaeto and trash or sell it.

pod breeding - add a lot of rubble rock and add supplemental food to feed the pods.

algae/pod combination - same as algae export but I would feed every now and then.

The feedings are not necessary, however it will help the pod population.

 

[Gooli]

Greg...thank you...my purpose is algae\pod combination. I will add LR and cheato...no sand.

what supplemental feeding are u speaking of for the pods? i do feed the tank bio\coral plankton twice a week.

And...u didnt comment on my baffle configuration option

 

[gcarroll]

as long as there is no prefilter, prior to the fuge so leftover food can feed the pods. As far as the baffles both are fine but that is depending on how big that sump is. Just keep in mind that the final chamber is the only water that the pump can pump up to the tank. That means you may find yourself topping off the sump more often to prevent the return pump from running dry. I made my final chamber large enough to do a 10 gallon water change without turning off the pump.

 

[818]

If you worried about flow and your baffle system you can use a Y fitting and distinguish the flow like this.

 

[Gooli]

thanks guys...i do have a filter sock on the drain...so i will feed occasionally...but what? formula 1? brine shrimp?

that is a great idea about making the return section as big as possible...i will do that...probably have 5-6 gallons there...should be enough

My F1sh R D34D!....thanks for that

 

[gcarroll]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7007937#post7007937 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by My F1sh R D34D!
If you worried about flow and your baffle system you can use a Y fitting and distinguish the flow like this.

That is a very good design! Simular to what I am doing in theory.

 

[Gooli]

My F1sh R D34D!....

so the water from the fuge just spills over...do u have teeth there?
wouldnt that creat bubbles into the return area?

i guess i never understood this design too well...why have two areas of "spillage" into the return area if you can have one?

Also...this design MUST have a split feed right? one to return and one to fuge?

does the split in the drain do a 50/50 split of flow?

(sorry for all the questions)