N/P reducing pellets (solid vodka dosing)

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In the long run you are cheaper buying a dose meter and dosing vodka. A dose meter is probably more convenient as well. You don't have to change out anything and can adjust it to whatever you want, whenever you want.

I have some pellets coming, I'm not sure I wouldn't have been better off putting $100 toward a good metering pump.
 
Frogmanx82,

It should be pointed out that running costs are not really high (IMO). If you start with one liter and you feed heavily, you'll need to add 25% every 6 months. That means that you'll spend 50 euros every two years... with less nutrient input you'll spend less. Here in Finland that is much cheaper than vodka ;)

Also, one of the key points is that you don't need to adjust the dosing as long as you have enough pellets. In theory that is.
 
bluereefs said:
Quite interesting novelty with great future. There is one issue what I dont get it right with bio pellets. Everyone talking how to use this pellets in established tanks but can not find information how to use them on brand new aquarium. Fresh aquarium, no fishes, corals, not even live rock (I use AquaRoche reef keramik ), what is the procedure for that kind of aquarium? Can I use bio pellets from the start, did I need to dose something, and when I can start to add fishes/corals? Can I ad big quantity of fishes imideatly or I need to rise bio load slow.

BTW jptenklooster I send you the mail 2 days ago but never get reply from you, to e mail adress mentioned in the first or second pages of this thread. I am interested in purchasing and distribution.
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i did not receive any mail. could you send me a pm?
 
jptenklooster pm send :wave:

For me prices are not high, of course vodka are not expensives also, if you are not in Finland lol. But what atract me to this system is simplicity, of course with all other great benefits. Was checking this system few months already, from Tatuvaj home page.

Can I please get the answer for my question regarding starting with bio pellets in brand new aquarium. I would like to test him and have 2 new aquariums, I think that will be also interesting for reefer who start new aquarium and would like to use bio pellets from the begining. In next 20 days I will be get new shipment of fishes/corals and would like to know how many of them can I put in new aquarium with bio pellets filtration.
Did I need to dose food in empty aquarium (with bio pellets filtration) to rise bacterial populations and prepare them for new livestock, or I dont need that and bio pellets will procesed fast waste from new fishes after their adition.
 
I will test bio pellets in this aquariums

150-160 gallons/500-600 liters, strong flow (5000 liters/hour), strong skimmer, can put bio pellets in fluid filter or filtersock who receive very high flow fully aerated, is few days old aquarium
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400-500 litter, 100-120 gallons, fed days old also, litlle weaker skimmer Extreme 200 EXT, also strong flow 5000 lit/hours
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I think it will be interesting to get information from using bio pellets from the start.

I can also test him in my 6 months old aquarium, due to heavy feeding I have about 2-5 mg nitrata/liter, no fosfates detectable on test kit probably due to strong wet skimming or kalkwaser use, or combination of both.

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I have very clear water and polyp extension, will see if bio pellets will get even clearer water and PE.
 
I've been following this thread and it's very interesting. In regards to the placement of the pellets near the intake of the skimmer, I have an idea. I'm using a temporary sump on my tank and to help with bubbles, I'm running my return into a container full of rubble that has an outlet at the bottom where my skimmer intake goes. With a few partitions of appropriately sized mesh, I think you could contain the pellets while allowing bacterial mulm to get skimmed out. You would also have lots of oxygenation and water movement to keep everything moving. it also doesn't require an extra pump.

My skimmer produces like crazy with this setup. I have to weigh down the collection cup lid and have to clean the cup daily.

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One day

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cool set up Mike.
But i wouldn`t make the mesh to small , because if it clogs a little bit it would decrease performance of skimmer.
never the less awesome perfoming skimmer !
greetingzz tntneon :)
 
bluereefs said:
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I can also test him in my 6 months old aquarium, due to heavy feeding I have about 2-5 mg nitrata/liter, no fosfates detectable on test kit probably due to strong wet skimming or kalkwaser use, or combination of both.

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I have very clear water and polyp extension, will see if bio pellets will get even clearer water and PE.....
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Whaaw :eek1: , that six month old one(pellet test tank) is already looking great ,even w/o use of pellets!!
Keep us informed if you have any results!

greetingzz tntneon :)
 
Hi !

Yes, I don't know what size would be best. I guess that would depend on the size of the pellets and the mulm. In my case it's free flow because I'm using rubble live rock. I'd tend to think that it's a great place for bacteria, and even as is may be of benefit to a bacterial system because it might add Nitrate that might be limiting P uptake.


Also there is a lot of water moving in there which might help in keeping it clog free.

I just want to present by basic idea. That was about two minutes of work with a circular saw. You guys can run with it if you want.
 
Mike O'Brien said:
Hi !

Yes, I don't know what size would be best. I guess that would depend on the size of the pellets and the mulm. In my case it's free flow because I'm using rubble live rock. I'd tend to think that it's a great place for bacteria, and even as is may be of benefit to a bacterial system because it might add Nitrate that might be limiting P uptake.


Also there is a lot of water moving in there which might help in keeping it clog free.

I just want to present by basic idea. That was about two minutes of work with a circular saw. You guys can run with it if you want.
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-With me the pellets lay in a box where my display drains into and i never see any build up off mulm in there so that won`t be a problem i think , due to fluidizing the pellets continiously release bacterial mass in think ( i never saw them wave to me , and saying hi i`m bacteria who are you:hmm5:)

This after noon i cleaned my skimmer cup too , is one that`s connected to an reservoir because i do wet skim , i skim about 1/4 g a day on a 30 g system.
it`s a diy skimmer so the neck piece is of black pvc ,so i couldn`t see it was holding like 25 grams of thick skimmer clay almost clogging the neck area , even when doing wet skim !!!
powerfull skimming is a must , using this methode i think .

greetingzz tntneon :)
 
Thank you tntneon, get answer from Jean Paul and contacted Dennis for BP shopping, hopefully will be testing soon my aquariums with BP.
Still nobody answer my question how to use BP with brand new aquarium and when is time to add livestock. If BP can proceed waste imideatly that mean that livestock can be added almost imideatly after the BP. Or bacteria from BP can eliminate only nitrate/fosfate and not the amonium, nitrite...?
 
I think they say that it takes up to 4 weeks before they are fully functional, which sounds like the bacterial colonies are developed enough to handle the waste. Like an ordinary tank cycle.

An advantage I see with them is you can use more than you need, and if you happen to overfeed, there will be more carbon for the bacteria to use. I'm not sure what happens to your tank if you add vodka, sugar or vinegar in excess of what the bacteria can take up.
 
Jean Paul,

What would you think of using a Deltec PF501 fluidized calcium reactor for the pellets? With this setup, the agitation is independent of the flow through the reactor as flow is dictated by the feed pump and agitation is via the built in recirculating pump.

Curious as to your opinion, and what the recommended flow-through rate would be.

Thanks!!

:D
 
So do the pellets need agitation. I was thinking of using my canister. I would have to make sure there was room for the pellets to move around in the chamber?
 
I bet any zeolite reactor will work well for these. You could agitate them every so often to eliminate channeling.
 
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