Naked Maroon Clown

Odd looking fish. The body doesn't look as elongated as you normally see with a maroon clown. Body type looks like it's intermediate between a maroon and a tomato clown.
 
Years ago, when I raised FW Angels to support my SW addiction, fish like all the clown-variants on the market were considered freaks and dumped. Now they sell for far more than the parents. IMO, some of the clowns on the market, like platinums, are downright butt-ugly. IMO, nature did a great job with the original. An, just my opinion, but compared to a normal maroon clown, this fish looks like something that would live in the Hudson River.
 
That fish definately looks deformed.

On the subject of varient clowns............breeders need to learn to cull deformed & mis shaped fish. I guess they are too greedy to do the right thing & create good quality breeds.
They could learn a thing or two from discus breeders.
 
i mean its just something different, im not really fond of the naked clowns tbh, but if they're odd then i like it, like this maroon, but i dont think its right that they are bred to have no stripes
 
That fish doesn't even remotely look like a maroon as far as the shape of the body. It does have cheek spines and the color going for it. But it looks like a hybrid with another species. I personally don't like it, although I do like some of the other color patterns in clownfish that have surfaced in the last few years.
 
That is a wild caught Maroon that came from the Solomons. It is quite large, around 4 inches or so of body length. This is not a captive raised clown. It is unusuall for odd clowns to make it in the wild, they are picked on and generally killed or eaten because of their oddness.

Dave
 
That is a wild caught Maroon that came from the Solomons. It is quite large, around 4 inches or so of body length. This is not a captive raised clown. It is unusuall for odd clowns to make it in the wild, they are picked on and generally killed or eaten because of their oddness.

Dave

Right, and there a lot of odd ones in a batch of so many eggs. Twenty years from now, the aquacultured "freaks" will be so common that we'll need to get a normal pair from the wild, defeating the purpose of captive breeding. I haven't kept FW in a long time, but still the wild strains of Discus & Angels are (IMO) the prettiest, but I doubt they can be found very easily.
 
Wow Dave, that's an interesting fish! To me this fish appears to be an Premnas biaculeatus/ Amphiprion melanopus hybrid...

Years ago, when I raised FW Angels to support my SW addiction, fish like all the clown-variants on the market were considered freaks and dumped. Now they sell for far more than the parents. IMO, some of the clowns on the market, like platinums, are downright butt-ugly. IMO, nature did a great job with the original. An, just my opinion, but compared to a normal maroon clown, this fish looks like something that would live in the Hudson River.

This argument is comparing apples to oranges... this is a fish nature made, and not a designer clownfish captive raised... why should you argue this fish should be dumped? When you argue "nature did a great job with the original", be aware that hybridization is not only a natural thing, but there are species that have undoubtedly arisen as a result of hybridization...
 
A naked maroon is not that unusual. Female maroon clown often loss a large percentage if not all their striping. I have received fish from the wild with hardly any striping in large females and I have had females lose almost all their stripes as they mature and start spawning.
 
Yes it does have a lot of the melanopus body shape to it. It is also not that unusual to find maroon pairs close to melanopus colonies in the wild. The maroon pairs are often in the "step down" vertical portion of the reef where the reef top drops off a few feet and starts the reef slope. The melanopus colonies are generally on the reef top in pretty shallow water and they both prefer the same type of anemone. If a Premnas / Amphiprion hybrid is possible this may be one.

Dave
 
In my experience the no stripes occur quite frequently on the gold stripe maroons but much less common on the white stripe varieties. The white stripes will often become very thin but not generally dissapear where the gold stripes will often dissapear leaving only a gold cap on the head.

Dave
 
I love deformed fish. It only sets them apart from all the conformity and commonality of fish tanks. How many tanks have you seen include a yellow and blue tang and some false percs? ughhhhhh

I'd love to own this unique fish. Keep in mind the dorsel fin on this naked maroon is down. Think it'll look much better flexing.
 
Yes that is one fugly clown. Now on the other hand this one beauty of a maroon. T
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Wow Dave, that's an interesting fish! To me this fish appears to be an Premnas biaculeatus/ Amphiprion melanopus hybrid...



This argument is comparing apples to oranges... this is a fish nature made, and not a designer clownfish captive raised... why should you argue this fish should be dumped? When you argue "nature did a great job with the original", be aware that hybridization is not only a natural thing, but there are species that have undoubtedly arisen as a result of hybridization...

I guess i got two topics going at once, the fish in this post and designer fish. When I said "dumped'; I was talking about tank raised fish.
 
I had 6 pairs of GSM's and as soon as the females started breeding they would start loosing their stripes. It would start from the back bottom and progress forward. One female GSM wound up looking just like the one above.
 
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