Namxas I have another Scorp. question

matt randazzo

matt randazzo

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now that i've got most of the basics down and know were to fing some general info abot scorps on your site, I just wanted to see what you think of a stocking order...

First a Foxface Lo
then the two Lions (antenna and dwarf zebra)
next is the Imnicus
and finaly the Blue jaw trigger...

Should i pass on the foxface? What do you think?

:reading: also because these fish are venomous and or have large teeth, and I feel that I would be very timid of putting my hand/arm in the tank with them is there some kind of "clean up crew" i should consier?

An urchin or two, could fit into the venomous "theme"... but would they be reasonably safe?
 
Assuming you'll be weaning the lions and the stingfish in QT, you could stock the tank that way. IME, foxfaces are awesome fish (one of the best I've kept), but quickly become as big a "pet" as lions eat like pigs to the point possibly disturbing a fish that's an "iffy" feeder, meaning they will often try and 'step in' for a snack.

Remember, you'll be be target feeding the fish in this tank, so you'll want to stock it as you develop your skills. This will also give you a chance to get used to working on your tank. To that end, you may want to enlist the aid of a "spotter" until you and the fish get used to each other. After that, your fish will usually hang back out of your way.

You shouldn't have too much trouble with your CUC...planktonic-feeding triggers aren't as hard on them as most others.
 
namxas said:
Assuming you'll be weaning the lions and the stingfish in QT, you could stock the tank that way. IME, foxfaces are awesome fish (one of the best I've kept), but quickly become as big a "pet" as lions eat like pigs to the point possibly disturbing a fish that's an "iffy" feeder, meaning they will often try and 'step in' for a snack.

Remember, you'll be be target feeding the fish in this tank, so you'll want to stock it as you develop your skills. This will also give you a chance to get used to working on your tank. To that end, you may want to enlist the aid of a "spotter" until you and the fish get used to each other. After that, your fish will usually hang back out of your way.

You shouldn't have too much trouble with your CUC...planktonic-feeding triggers aren't as hard on them as most others.
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cuc is easy to have with those animals. snails and scarlet crabs i have with my lion and eel. all alive and well

lions and triggers dont mix. people say blue jaws and indians are ok, but me personally would not risk it.

when you have lions with faster tankmates they will hang out and not move.

when you have them with other slow tankmates they will swim much more

i had a clarkii that kept my lions in one spot. as soon as i took him out the lions swim all th time
 
You will have great difficulty getting the stingfish to eat, and with any other fish in the tank may be next to impossible.
 
Also, with the lion fish, but they will be easier than the stingfish. Have you watched greg and renee's videos of them feeding the sting fish, it's very slow and cautious when feeding. The foxface will get in there and spread the food all around and distract the stingfish. The lions, you could wean in small container put inside the tank, like a small plastic container with holes in it for flow. The sting fish really needs the substrate to be comfortable.
 
It's funny -- I have a fuzzy in with 2 fus and the fuzzy is a very aggressive eater. I feed him until he looks like his stomach is full -- sometimes he gets quite round. The fus are slower so I do have to stick feed them. I also have a filefish and a melanurus wrasse with them and they all get along quite well. In my reef tank I have a rabbitfish and while they are big I don't think they are particularly fast. He is an big eater but he doesn't have really great turning power. I am with Greg though -- I used to have a foxface and this guy is a scribbled rabbit and I think they are awesome fish. As Greg said, you will learn the best way to feed your fish as you go along. Also, they will come to trust you as the food god!
 
Fibinotchi said:
Also, with the lion fish, but they will be easier than the stingfish. Have you watched greg and renee's videos of them feeding the sting fish, it's very slow and cautious when feeding.
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Fib,

The OP is talking about getting an Inimicus, not a Chorydactylus. IME, goblins are pretty easy to wean. Personally, I don't recommend keeping a ghoul with any piscine tankmates, because they are indeed exactly how you mentioned.

what exactly do you mean by Quarintine? because i was just going to add and wean them one at a time...
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I know QT is a PITA, however, you have a nice tank you're going to stock, and even tho Scorpaeniformes are relatively disease-resistant, they do come in with cooties on occasion. You also want to use that chance to get your fish eating and conditioned, then get it weaned with no "distractions" from tankmates.

QT setups can be pretty simple and easy to do, and it's one of the best habits you can get into. Give this article a read:

Quarantine! It's a Life Sentence, Not a Death Sentence
 
OK now for a final question of my curiosity, that has just been bugging me for a while...
where can i purchas these fish? (besides Liveaqaira.com and my LFS's) Can a LFS specifically order the fish i want?

also when i was looking on liveaquaira i had seen a fish called a one spot foxface... its very similar to the foxface Lo but dosn't get as big..., would that be better suited for the tankmates i listed earlier?
 
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LFS usually can special order in for you. Also I completly agree on getting a QT tank set up it's one of the best investments I've ever made.
 
ok thank you guys for answering my questions so quickly and waht not... I'm sure I'll have more soon. realy I mean it would have taken me mounths to find all this info on my own... I can't even begin to express how greatful I am :)
 
Matt,

Siganus unimaculatus is a great foxface, pretty much the same as S. vulpinus, but with a single black spot on the lower rear dorsal area.

As for WHERE to get your fish...we get our specimens from everywhere: the LFS, DD, Blue Zoo Aquatics, and even the wholesaler when we're lucky enuff to be doing some cherry picking for a friend's business.

When you keep fish that aren't "meat & potato" fish like yellow tangs, clowns, etc, you need to be patient and keep your eyes open. Sometimes it takes quite awhile to find "your" fish, but you will eventually find it.
 
ok thanks for the colorful metaphore... oh well I guess i just might have to cut a fish or could it still work out since i'm going to me getting a 125 gallon?
 
well hang on... what if i were to get only one lion fish? would a foxface be able to "fit-in" with that set-up?
 
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Ok Good news!!! While going throu all my old FW stuff I found something i think will be great for a QT... its a 6" long by 4" wide by 4" tall fry hatchery, made of very fine netting that hangs in the tank... Now on to my question for you guys, would this be suficient for a QT of Juvi. scorps?
 
I think that may be a bit too small.... would you even be able to aquascape it? Would the netting even hold rock? Is it the one with the green plastic rods?
 
well there blue... but same thing, the netting is white, correct?

so you think i could just drill a bunch of holes in an old plastic container?
I have a big one too like a foot long by 6" tall and 8" wide...
 
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