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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14421060#post14421060 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Whys
My wife concurs, this is green with BLUE tips. Don't suppose you've ever been tested for color-blindness?
Haha! I have some trouble with hard-to-tell purples/blues... however in real life, it is most definitely pink.
What do you think of my sump design Whys? I am trying to put together a 3D model of it now and post it later tonight.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14421060#post14421060 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Whys
My wife concurs, this is green with BLUE tips. Don't suppose you've ever been tested for color-blindness?
Blue looking under T5s and with a camera flash to supplement doesn't mean much
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I have a frogspawn under blue T5s, have taken photos of it both with and without a flash, and it has never looked that color. Anyway, I was just hoping that was the true color, because that would be awesome and I would want one. But alas, I am happy with the frogspawn I have.<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14421286#post14421286 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tylt33
Blue looking under T5s and with a camera flash to supplement doesn't mean much
chatyak
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14421619#post14421619 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Whys
I have a frogspawn under blue T5s, have taken photos of it both with and without a flash, and it has never looked that color. Anyway, I was just hoping that was the true color, because that would be awesome and I would want one. But alas, I am happy with the frogspawn I have.
Tell you what... help me fix this blasted tank... then when my frogspawn grows, i'll cut a frag off and ship it you and the mystery of the polyp color will be decided once and for all.
How is the sump design? Add an extra 5-10 inches to the width.
Whys
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I don't see anything obviously wrong with your design, but I do have a couple questions.
I assume you will, but to be clear, you will have a split drain with a slower-flow going to the fuge?
What do you intend to use the primary refugium compartment for and why do you have a separate compartment for your chaeto?
Do you believe the first bubble trap is necessary given your use of 3 baffles? Won't the skimmer render the first trap moot?
If you intend or later decide to use a micron sock on the primary drain, how accessible will it be? Will you hate messing with it? (I wish I had asked myself this one.)
Have you decided if you are going to run carbon or GFO? If so, then by what means?
Genuine question, no judgement... why have you decided to split your sump length-wise? How accessible does your refugium need to be?
How much gph will be going thru those baffles? That will decided how far apart you need to place them for maximum effect.
Is you return pump inline or drop-in?
I assume you will, but to be clear, you will have a split drain with a slower-flow going to the fuge?
What do you intend to use the primary refugium compartment for and why do you have a separate compartment for your chaeto?
Do you believe the first bubble trap is necessary given your use of 3 baffles? Won't the skimmer render the first trap moot?
If you intend or later decide to use a micron sock on the primary drain, how accessible will it be? Will you hate messing with it? (I wish I had asked myself this one.)
Have you decided if you are going to run carbon or GFO? If so, then by what means?
Genuine question, no judgement... why have you decided to split your sump length-wise? How accessible does your refugium need to be?
How much gph will be going thru those baffles? That will decided how far apart you need to place them for maximum effect.
Is you return pump inline or drop-in?
chatyak
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I assume you will, but to be clear, you will have a split drain with a slower-flow going to the fuge?
Correct
What do you intend to use the primary refugium compartment for and why do you have a separate compartment for your chaeto?
The primary refugium will hold live rock rubble for pods and a sandbed with some macroalgae. I wanted a separate compartment for the chaeto so I could install a spray bar and have it tumble. If I install a spray bar in the refugium will it not kick up the sand?
Do you believe the first bubble trap is necessary given your use of 3 baffles? Won't the skimmer render the first trap moot?
I have no idea to be honest. I figured the water would pour down into the trap then rise back up and flow over the two baffles to help reduce bubbles before the skimmer pump picked them up?
If you intend or later decide to use a micron sock on the primary drain, how accessible will it be? Will you hate messing with it? (I wish I had asked myself this one.)
Well it would be wide enough to get the hand in there and move things around. I was thinking 6 inches in.
Have you decided if you are going to run carbon or GFO? If so, then by what means?
I am running both GFO and Carbon as we speak from a dual reactor @ BulkReefSupply. Still need to figure where I will put it though in the new sump. Maybe I will hang it on one of the baffles.
Genuine question, no judgement... why have you decided to split your sump length-wise? How accessible does your refugium need to be?
No particular reason, but I am tired of reaching and stretching through plumbing under the stand now..so out in the open the new sump goes. The design can be changed around. This was just a preliminary thought.
How much gph will be going thru those baffles? That will decided how far apart you need to place them for maximum effect.
I have a Mag 7 right now as the return pump. I think I will need to upgrade.
Is you return pump inline or drop-in?
It sits in the sump water, so inline I assume?
Correct
What do you intend to use the primary refugium compartment for and why do you have a separate compartment for your chaeto?
The primary refugium will hold live rock rubble for pods and a sandbed with some macroalgae. I wanted a separate compartment for the chaeto so I could install a spray bar and have it tumble. If I install a spray bar in the refugium will it not kick up the sand?
Do you believe the first bubble trap is necessary given your use of 3 baffles? Won't the skimmer render the first trap moot?
I have no idea to be honest. I figured the water would pour down into the trap then rise back up and flow over the two baffles to help reduce bubbles before the skimmer pump picked them up?
If you intend or later decide to use a micron sock on the primary drain, how accessible will it be? Will you hate messing with it? (I wish I had asked myself this one.)
Well it would be wide enough to get the hand in there and move things around. I was thinking 6 inches in.
Have you decided if you are going to run carbon or GFO? If so, then by what means?
I am running both GFO and Carbon as we speak from a dual reactor @ BulkReefSupply. Still need to figure where I will put it though in the new sump. Maybe I will hang it on one of the baffles.
Genuine question, no judgement... why have you decided to split your sump length-wise? How accessible does your refugium need to be?
No particular reason, but I am tired of reaching and stretching through plumbing under the stand now..so out in the open the new sump goes. The design can be changed around. This was just a preliminary thought.
How much gph will be going thru those baffles? That will decided how far apart you need to place them for maximum effect.
I have a Mag 7 right now as the return pump. I think I will need to upgrade.
Is you return pump inline or drop-in?
It sits in the sump water, so inline I assume?
Whys
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Well, the more I look at it the more I like it, what ever that's worth. I know nothing of spray bars, but I certainly see what you're thinking.
I wouldn't be surprised if you decided to use a sock tho. Which might leave you wanting to remove the pane between the "intake" and skimmer section. Honestly, if all your thinking is bubble-trap, I'm just not sure it's necessary. You've gone with a lengthy design and a good baffle setup. That should do most of the work removing bubbles and chances are your skimmer is going to produce a few of its own anyway.
It looks like a pretty smart setup. I'm not sure how you intend to setup your spray-bar, but all I can think is a lot of the flow from the "pods" section will want to whip around the corner without interacting much with the chaeto corner, make for a bit of a dead spot except for the spray-bar. You will have to reach to the back to trim the chaeto.
The design appeals to me.
Your pump would be drop-in, as in drop-in to the sump. An external pump is inline with the plumbing. Some prefer external because they generally add less heat to the water column.
Don't forget if you put a sock in you will need to reach over the skimmer.
I wouldn't be surprised if you decided to use a sock tho. Which might leave you wanting to remove the pane between the "intake" and skimmer section. Honestly, if all your thinking is bubble-trap, I'm just not sure it's necessary. You've gone with a lengthy design and a good baffle setup. That should do most of the work removing bubbles and chances are your skimmer is going to produce a few of its own anyway.
It looks like a pretty smart setup. I'm not sure how you intend to setup your spray-bar, but all I can think is a lot of the flow from the "pods" section will want to whip around the corner without interacting much with the chaeto corner, make for a bit of a dead spot except for the spray-bar. You will have to reach to the back to trim the chaeto.
The design appeals to me.
Your pump would be drop-in, as in drop-in to the sump. An external pump is inline with the plumbing. Some prefer external because they generally add less heat to the water column.
Don't forget if you put a sock in you will need to reach over the skimmer.
