New 320g build?'s

SteelMastiff

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My incredible wife just said Merry Christmas and green lighted a tank that I've been dreaming about since I entered the hobby as a teenager, and I just ordered it this past Saturday. It's a 320 gallon, 96" long, 30" wide, 26" deep tank with a low iron glass front panel; needles to say I'm pretty excited. Because of the layout of my home it will sit centered directly over a load bearing wall that will allow for a basement sump/fish room. It caught me a little off guard when she gave me the green light; she knew that it was something I've been dreaming about for a long time, but I had no idea she was actually going to come onboard to help me realize a dream. I guess this proves that even after twenty plus years of being with someone, they can still surprise you at times"¦

I also think that perhaps my weekly ritual of sloshing around the house with five gallon buckets full of salt water whilst her favorite television programs are aired just might have lead her to the conclusion that a single large tank, with a basement sump, would be much more conducive to her viewing pleasure. And under no circumstances did I intentionally plot my weekly water change schedule to coincide with her favorite television programs; my story, and I'm sticking to it, so let not your mind be troubled.

I took a 20 year hiatus from the hobby and just re-entered the hobby a little over a year ago, and admittedly, I haven't been active on any forums because of my past experience in the hobby, crazy work schedule, and with the current fowlr tanks that I'm running I just didn't have a lot of questions, but this tank is going to be a whole new ball of wax for me.

The tank should be built and ready for pick up sometime within the next five weeks, so this doesn't give me a ton of time to build a stand, research equipment, and layout my fish room. So the realization of this project has drawn me to seek the advice of those that have taken on the task of setting up a basement sump/filtration/quarantine room. I have never been one to just dive into a project without doing as much research as possible, but my wives sudden willingness and heart felt gift has inspired me to do just that; wouldn't want her changing her mind or anything, so I'm running with it"¦

Like many, I am working on a budget, so I just want to get it right the first time around. I haven't been having much luck coming across used equipment to this point, at least none that meet the requirements of this kind of water volume and future bio load. So it looks like I will be purchasing some new equipment. The tank will start out as a fowlr system, but my wife and I would really like to venture into a reef set up in the near future, so that is the end goal.

I ordered the sump from the tank manufacturer, so this is taken care of already, although he did tell me if I wanted to make any changes within the next week, just to let them know. It's dimensions are as follows 60"Lx 24"Wx18"H, I might stretch that out to 72" if it would be beneficial in any way, more water volume normally is, but perhaps not really necessary in this case. I have plenty of work space, but I need to try and stay within my set budget as much as possible for major equipment. I am thinking just live rock and algae in the refugium portion of the sump for now.

This is a short list of what I really need immediate advice on, and sorry in advance, probably the most common questions asked. Now keeping in mind I'm looking for most bang for the buck due to budget restraints; now if I was the Federal Government this would be a non issue, but for a simpleton bottom feeder without any connections its just reality.

Protein Skimmer: The SRO 6000 SSS or 5000 INT seem to be fairly budget friendly, would they be up for the task?

Return Pump: I am looking at 10-15 ft max head pressure depending on sump placement; I want 2-3 times turn over through the sump/protein skimmer, so that's only 8-1200 gph. I plead ignorance on this one, If I were to run a manifold with a larger pump, is it possible to create a closed loop off the same pump for additional water flow within the tank, and still keep my turn over rate at desired levels through the sump? I am not a plumber, although I have plumbed a few bathrooms over the years, but they don't exactly require a manifold"¦ I am having the sump/tank builder go ahead and drill a hole on the pump side of the sump, so this allows for an internal or external pump. Would there be any good reason to have both ends drilled?

Bio Pellet Reactor: Considering the bio load that will be placed on the system, this might be wise to help deal with certain nitrate issues associated with keeping some messy eaters. I don't know a lot about these new fangled devices, no such thing twenty years ago, but they certainly sound intriguing. What say you?

Plumbing component advice: Ball valves, gate valves, hard line or flexible, and where each is needed within the system. IE: drain and return.

I am looking forward to any personal advice one might be willing to offer, any links to info that would be of value, good vendor experience that might be able to put together a package deal on protein skimmer, pump, bio pellet reactor.

Thanks for your time, and I look forward to becoming a member of your community, this is if my newbie questions haven't already ruined a chance for this to happen"¦

Corey
 
You can always get a surprise.. My wife went to visit her family for the weekend.. and when she got back, I surprised her that I had ordered a 120G tank and I showed her the cabinet I was building for it...LOL
 
You can always get a surprise.. My wife went to visit her family for the weekend.. and when she got back, I surprised her that I had ordered a 120G tank and I showed her the cabinet I was building for it...LOL

Perfect, much easier to ask for forgiveness than permission"¦
 
Good Luck! I am excited for you.

Double check your total water volume when choosing a skimmer.

You do not want to over skim.
 
Always go plus one on skimmer and do a lot of Research before you commit.

I have a lot of research to do for certain; I have narrowed down a few key items to get this thing going, just need to start pulling the trigger here soon. I am struggling on the whether to go with an internal or external skimmer, simple would be to just plop one in the sump and be done with it, but then the advantages of an external keep crossing my mind. I just need to decide and go with it"¦
 
Go with the 6000SSS....I have the 3000SSS with a volume of 170. The 6000SSS will do a nice job on your tank, is compact, quiet and one quality piece of equipment!
 
You can always get a surprise.. My wife went to visit her family for the weekend.. and when she got back, I surprised her that I had ordered a 120G tank and I showed her the cabinet I was building for it...LOL

I upgraded from 180g to 300g and my wife had no clue until the LFS movers arrived with the 300g at the front door. Almost got it in the basement without her knowing.
:lmao:
 
I have a sro 3000 int for my 240 gallon. It works really good. There is a thread in the vendor section for reef specialty with a lot of info on reef octopus. Definitely get the reef octopus self cleaning head! They are awesome. I perfer internal skimmers.
good luck on your project.
-Paul
 
I also have a SRO-3000INT and really like it. I wouldn't get one of the SSS models unless you're limited on sump space. Hop on the CoralVue/Reef Octopus section and ask them. Jeremy usually answers all questions and he would know best.
 
thumbs up to the super reef octopus line, i would do a 5000int with that tank. i had this on a 210 and it worked awesome. if you do go S.R.O. get in touch with jeremy and tell him your plans and water volume for the best fit skimmer. bigger is not always better with these skimmers.
 
I upgraded from 180g to 300g and my wife had no clue until the LFS movers arrived with the 300g at the front door. Almost got it in the basement without her knowing.
:lmao:

Funny, I upgraded the wheels and tires on my Jeep and drove around with it for three weeks before my wife realized it, and the only reason she noticed a difference was when she went to hop up into it to go for a ride, at 5’2” I guess 3 inches makes a huge difference considering she had a hard time getting into it prior to the upgrade...

Thanks to all for the advice on the skimmer, I am not sure why, but CoralVue rates the 6000 EXT for up to 600gal, and the 6000 SSS at 630-735gal. It is either a typo, or I am missing something, it just doesn’t add up in my mind. Unless it has to do with backpressure on the pump increasing contact time, but I think not?

I have plenty of room in my sump for either 5000int, 6000SSS, or 6000ext, and I am pretty certain they all have the same neck diameter so it just comes down to cost, water/air volume and contact time. I could certainly save some cheese for other things with an internal; I just don’t know what the future holds so I might be better served going as large as I can up front within reason… I already have 14 fish spread out over 3 tanks waiting for their new home to arrive, granted I might thin them out a bit in favor of a few fish that I've been wanting…
 
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