New Blue Haddoni
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Does your blue Haddoni still stay the same diameter though when it gets more inflated after a feeding?
I feed my blue Haddoni pretty often and it always looks thin when fully expanded but thicker when slightly deflated.
rkelman
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Yes I would say the diameter is the same. The only time the diameter increases is when the halides have been on for a few hours. I don't see that in mine It looks thick and full at full diameter. If its hungry it will almost look wilted around the edges and thinner. The diameter used to be smaller. Its diameter definately got larger since I upgraded to halides.
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My carpet went from PCs to T5s and my carpet had a growth spurt.
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Why? It is basically impossible for th at Clarkii to die. Some clowns go inside anemones and come back out. As long as the clowns are completely immune to the nematocyts of the anemone, they are pretty much safe. My female Clarkii does the same thing with my blue Haddoni
NewSchool04
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If the carpet eats it, then it won't be impossible at all. I'm not saying that your carpet will eat your Clarkii but it's not unheard of.
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Got any links or references of Haddonis eating their natural host?
NewSchool04
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no
illcssd
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I have one link after a search,
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81545&highlight=carpet+ate+clown
Not sure it can happen to a healthy clown, but it was just a general observation, i enjoy your updates and love your beautiful haddoni. I hope i didnt offend at all, just a thought i had...
I have "heard" alot of horror stories about carpet's eating clowns, yet never really read anything more than warnings, not actually personal stories, except this one link i found.
fwiw
austin
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81545&highlight=carpet+ate+clown
Not sure it can happen to a healthy clown, but it was just a general observation, i enjoy your updates and love your beautiful haddoni. I hope i didnt offend at all, just a thought i had...
I have "heard" alot of horror stories about carpet's eating clowns, yet never really read anything more than warnings, not actually personal stories, except this one link i found.
fwiw
austin
rkelman
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I wouldnt think the mouth of the anemone is dangerous at all.. It can't sting the fish. The fish should be more than able to go in and out of the mouth without risk. The risk is in getting to the mouth. I watched a black saddle back at my LFS going in and out of a carpets mouth it was pretty cool. My Ocellaris doesn't do it.
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That wasn't a very reliable link that you provided. First off, the guy didn't even see the Haddoni eat the Clarkii. He was just assuming the Haddoni ate the Clarkii because the Clarkii got sick and may have lost her/his mucus coating. If the guy had a reasonable cleanup crew at the time, the Clarkii may have just died because of the popeye disease and once dead, the cleanup crew finished the clarkii leading the guy to think the Haddoni was at fault for the Clarkii's death. Even if the Haddoni somehow ate the Clarkii, it probably had something to do with the fact the Clarkii was sick. And when a fish is sick, their immune system drops and the Haddoni could have easily got the Clarkii this way. I am not saying this is how it happened but its just a logical hypothesis.
My female Clarkii dives onto my blue Haddoni's mouth all the time and sleeps on it even. And nothing happens. The Haddoni doesn't even react to this movement by the female Clarkii. Just look at rkelman's avatar. Look at what that Clarkii is doing. Do you think that Clarkii is endangered? This is nature and a mutualistic relationship. If clown anemones ate their hosts, clownfish would either have to evolve and adapt or they will die off. I even have seen and read that Ocellarish and Percs go completely into the mouth of E. Quadricolor and come right back out like its no big deal.
Ron Popeil
Love them clownfish.
ive seen a haddoni eat a clarkii. infact, it ate two of them.
the clowns would regularly dive into the mouth of the anemone if frightened. during a move, the anemone was easily removed, and the clowns did their best to hide in the center of the oral disc. one entered the mouth.
several hours later the other clown entered the mouth when the anemone was introduced into its new tank. neither clown ever returned from this.
the clowns would regularly dive into the mouth of the anemone if frightened. during a move, the anemone was easily removed, and the clowns did their best to hide in the center of the oral disc. one entered the mouth.
several hours later the other clown entered the mouth when the anemone was introduced into its new tank. neither clown ever returned from this.
55semireef
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Alright, so the anemone was under stress this time. :rollface:
Does anyone have a reference where both Clarkii and Haddoni were both stable and happy and the clarkii got eaten? BTW, it doesn't have to be a Clarkii clown. Just any natural host of a Haddoni.
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Your the culprit of it. 
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