new to mantis. Gonodactylus smithii

everl0ng

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recently i have become very interested in mantis shrimp. i have a spare 10 gallon tank that i would LOVE to turn into a mantis tank. i have done some reading and became interested in Gonodactylus smithii. do any of you have one of these little guys? if so can i see your setups and share your experiences?
thank you very much in advance!
 
G. smithii are great lil tank inhabitants. I have one in my 8gal reef. I cant think of a single downside to him.

just keep up with water changes though. mantids can be messy eaters so i only feed once every three days and let him be the only tank inhabitant (except for the occasional food snail or hermit who manage to evade him for a while).

and here's my set up: just a biocube with the small standard mods.
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and Trogdor, the smtihii
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so he doesn't bother any of your corals whatsoever? see, i have a 10 gallon that is cycling right now and i do have a 150w mh from when i used to have clams. i know the mantis will need some shade that he can get away from the bightness, so i have constructed a t-shape out os 1'' pvc and laid that down with the sand covering it and then the rocks on top of it that way he can burrow inside of the pvc under the sand as well as in the rocks. i would like to house some corals since i have the mh. i am also wondering if i can add a clam to the tank, or if the mantis will see the clam as food...? i will keep the mantis as the only inhabitant though i have seen a clown in a mantis tank that has supposedly been alright, but i would be afraid of the mantis eating it for dinner as the clown is resting. that is a beautiful tank and mantis btw. thank you, and i appreciate your reply and help!! also, can you tell me where you got him because i cannot find anywhere online to purchase one of these guys when the time comes after my cycle?
 
thank you for the compliments. :)

In a mantis reef all the small frags have to be glued down to something that the mantis cant move. I ignored that rule once and lost a frag of zoos to him... that was my fault. other than that, small mantisd are pretty much reef-safe imo. only thing is that, like i said, you have to keep up with water changes since they dont allow you much in terms of CUC except turbo snails.

what kind of corals would you like to keep? you obviously have enough light for whatever you want, so the main constraint would be nutrients in the water. All the corals i selected were pretty hardy and tolerant of less than pristine water. for example i would avoid the delicate acroporas, but that depends on how disciplined you are at water quality.

I would imagine a large enough clam would be safe from a small amntis like G. smithii, but i just dont think 10gal is nearly enough volume to house a sizeable enough clam. plus, with the added bioload from a mantis, the tank may be considered too high in nutrients for such a fickle thing as a clam.

I have no pvc in my tank (i just dont like the look of it) so i just got some rock with lots of holes in it, threw in a fistful of LR rubble and let the mantis build his own burrow. but there's plenty of people around who made the mantis a pvc burrow. just throw in a fistful of LR rubble and you're set. the rubble is important. you can just put it all in a pile in the back if you dont want it directly visible.

I would discourage the clown. a mantis alone is pushing the bioload for a 10gal reef and i think a fish would tip it over. that and the mantis+fish combination is never a guarantee. like you said, the clown MAY end up as dinner. mantids are pretty variable in their tolerance of fish. Id imagine in a smaller tank like ours, the aggression towards a fish would be increased.

Finding a G. smithii is not that easy really. online vendors rarely identify mantis species properly and anything labelled peacock or lime green mantis is a warning that they dont really know what they're talking about. The only way to get a G. smithii is to know how to distinguish it from other mantis species and go out and look for it on wysiwyg sections of sites and at your lfs. if you cant id them, then get pics, post em and we should be able to tell you what species you're looking at.

if you want to avoid the hassle of finding a G. smithii, then take a look at N. wennerae (a very close next best tank inhabitant imo). Their requirements are identical to that of G. smithii as is their activity level. they are by far the most easily found mantis because TBS has them and only them. 50$, not a bad deal since you know exactly what to expect.
 
wow! thank you VERY much for that information! i will definitely stay away from away from the fish. i will also probably stay away from the clam and corals until i get my BC29. i modded an aquaclear power filter into a refugium and added some rock rubble into it to also help with filtration. i have 20lbs of sand as well as about 25-30 lbs of rock. right now i have an aquaclear 301 powerhead as well as a mj1200 with a hydor flo rotating water deflector attached so i have roughly 35-40x turnover in the tank to help with filtration. i will check out tbs and look for a n. wennerae when the time comes. how many gallons do you do on your wc's for your 6gal? do you do the 10% or do you do a little more? and when you clean the glass do you use an algae pad with your hand in the water, or do you use a mag float to avoid the finger injury?
 
well it sounds like you're pretty much on your way. Have you done the small mods on the biocube. If you havent, i highly recommend you do them before stocking.

I keep to biweekly to weekly 20% waterchanges. i do that on all my tanks.

for cleaning I just use a magfloat. the key is not to let the coralline accumulate and get a good hold, so scrape often. a good rule of thumb (no pun intended) is not have your hands in the tank whenever possible. If you have to, wear thick gloves. frag corals outside the tank. while a small smasher couldnt break your thumb, if it decided to spear you, you might end up with a nasty infection.
 
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thats my 18 gal G. Smithii reef.
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and thats Bane.

I got lucky and found this guy at a local LFS for $12.99. I have heard of people droppin $80 plus because they are indeed hard to find.

id look on as many forums as you can, check craigslist and other classifieds, online and local LFS, and also try calling as many LFS as you can in like a 3 state radius.

im running a 96 watt PC fixture, and as far as coral goes i gots it all except clams.

i just use the Marine land sure bond i think its called to glue the smaller frags down.

i never have issues w/ BAne attacking me while in in the tank, but at the same time i tey and keep track of where he is.

i use a razorblad to scrape the inside, and, i use the MR clean magic erasers sliced into thin strips held under my magfloat too.

i also have a fire fish and the damn damsel that i hate. bane tried to get them each at least once (tey both had lil "vampire marks on their side)

but they have wised up to his games, because it happend once, to both fish
 
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