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Hi Acro
Due to changes of the motor at the manufacturing end, and the steel shortage in the uS the standard 4 ways ar not available at the moment, as soon as those issues are resolved then I would offer it again. sorry for the problem but it is out of my control.

Patrick I sent you a PM seems the France/Canada e-mail connection has been cut some place in the Atlantic :)

Thanx for all the pics guys, and the avi's, all gratefully accepted.

Paul
 
What version drum are you guys using. I asked for a version 1. After thinking about it I would prefer a 1324 I think this would be more random. I dont know if Paul makes one like this. I sent him a email and asked if he makes that version drum if not thats ok I can plumb it anyway I want. If you read this Paul it's ok if you don't have a version like that just send what I asked for.

Michael
 
after all my plumbing i tried to do the RC head loss calculator w/ the Iwalki pump that closely matched mine and it said i would get 550+gph out of my pump. that is 1/2 of the list...should i send it back and get a pressure rated pump??

i am planning to use the panworld 50PXX (circulation pump) or blueline product number 30x HD
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merc...Product_Code=PW-50PX-X&Category_Code=Panworld

thoughts?? or will 550 be enough??? it will be comminug out of two outlets at all times.

just seems like VERY little to me :( :(
Lunchbucket
 
picture beside a soda can...

picture beside a soda can...

Can someone please post a picture of the 4-way beside a soda can for size reference? Or the 4-way is larger than a soda can in size.

I'm planning on doing a mock-up of the 4-way within my tank's canopy to check if I have the space to plumb it.
 
Could you run a 4 way or even an 8 way off of an Ampmaster? Or is anybody doing that yet? Or would I need to have a pressure rated pump for it.

Cheers!!

Pat
 
Well.. mine produces about the same amount of flow after all the pumbling ,but my drum is 1,2,3,4. The flow is pretty good.

You might need a little more flow since you are running a dual outlet drum. I don't think you need a pressure rated pump, just a pump that can push more gph..

Lunchbucket said:
after all my plumbing i tried to do the RC head loss calculator w/ the Iwalki pump that closely matched mine and it said i would get 550+gph out of my pump. that is 1/2 of the list...should i send it back and get a pressure rated pump??

i am planning to use the panworld 50PXX (circulation pump) or blueline product number 30x HD
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merc...Product_Code=PW-50PX-X&Category_Code=Panworld

thoughts?? or will 550 be enough??? it will be comminug out of two outlets at all times.

just seems like VERY little to me :( :(
Lunchbucket
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after all my plumbing i tried to do the RC head loss calculator w/ the Iwalki pump that closely matched mine and it said i would get 550+gph out of my pump. that is 1/2 of the list...should i send it back and get a pressure rated pump??
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When you used the calculator did you add all of your plumbing and elbows or just the ones that would be running at the same time? Also, did you multiply the head feet at all to account for the multiple outlets or just figure for 1?

You should only need to figure the plumbing and elbows that will be running at the same time. Also, however much head feet is all you put in, don't need to multiply it b/c there is more than 1 outlet. Another factor you should figure in is that you have 2 runs of pvc going at the same time which will produce less head than a single run.

I don't think it is necessary to run a pressure rated pump with these. If your calculations were right, I don't think 550 GPH will be enough for your tank since, I'm assuming, it will be all sps. BTW, I'm getting rid of and Iwaki 55 if you're interested.
 
Could you run a 4 way or even an 8 way off of an Ampmaster? Or is anybody doing that yet? Or would I need to have a pressure rated pump for it.
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I will be running my Heavy Duty 4-way off a Sequence Sting Ray. Also, I think Paul(golf nut) is running his off a Sequence Dart. Both of these pumps have similar curves to the Ampmasters. If you do use an Ampmaster I would suggest using the Heavy Duty 4-way as it has 1.5" outlets. Any plumbing smaller than 1.5" will really decrease the flow you get from an Ampmaster.
 
Travis when i used the calculator i added up ONLY the outlets that would be running...i used outlet 1&4 since they are the LONGEST and the ones that have the MOST 90's and stuff to get to where i want them. the inside ones are VERY close but the outide ones run a LOT more pipe. i choose the 2 outlet option. BUT i choose .75" pipe for the WHOLE thing. but i am running 1" up to the unit and .75" out away from the unit so it might be figuring it low.

either way i still would like more output if that is ALL i am getting out of it. i was hoping i was gonna run over 800gph with all the plumbing but i am not sure now :( :(

so should i send back the unused pump and get a bigger one? use the one i have?

i have a buddy that is running a about 1000gph TOTAL through his 58 and it looks like quite a bit of flow. i will be running the mag 950 as FULL open as i can get it and the close loop full throttle.

travis PM me about the pump.

hope someone can help me out
Lunchbucket
 
Lunchbucket-

I'm running the 4 port HD with the same drum your using off a SEQ3200 to four 3/4" revolutions. I have a little flow diverted throught carbon, uv, then chiller and I can guarantee that there is more than 500 GPH going through each revolution. I had to make sure that nothing was to close to the outlets or it wouldn't survive.

Brent

Brent
 
so should i send back the unused pump and get a bigger one? use the one i have?
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I figure with your 950 returning water at 4' head you'll get around 800gph + 550 = about 23X turnover. I think that "may" be fine. However, I've always taken the approach that more is better. I will be running my 280 at 62X turnover.:D
 
Get a decent pressure rated pump Lunch.. they do a much better job.
If your stuck with submersible, I'd go with an Eheim, or a much strong er mag (what they got that's bigger than 12?). You can always dial it back if the pumps too much, but an underpowered pump, will never be anything but an underpowered pump.

- Mac
 
hey guys just come across this product, so what do you all think of it?

so do you need a pump first to pump the water to the unit where the unit changes where the water returns to?
 
brentp - your pump is MUCH stronger than mine :( :(

Travis - only get 561 for the mag 950 (5ft up, two 45's, 1- 90, 3/4" pipe). and the blueline will run only about 420...once i added it all up...but that is ALL 3/4" pipe...i am sure the 1" up the the unit will help out some but not enough :( :( i want MORE flow but want to keep the watts down and i don't want to BLAST EVERYTHING from the outlets either. i think your pump (iwaki 55rlt) is my best option. figured out the flow w/ that bad boy and it gave me 777gph w/ ALL 3/4" pipe...so i will run a little more w/ the plumbing i have!!! SWEET! so 550 +750 (conservitively)=1300gph total or ~22x's turnover. that is good for now...and hey i might end up being stuck w/ the blueline pump and add it on someday or maybe some other flow somehow :D

ReeferMac - blueline/panworlds are more than decent but i got a circulation pump because i went braindead on my FIRST REAL pump and forgot to add up the headloss :( :( i think i will buy off travis's iwaki 55rlt...should be MORE that plenty.

sorry if i hijacked this thread but some people might learn from it :D just like i am trying :( :(

Lunchbucket
 
I need some recommendations from those of you that have this up and running.

I am planning on a 200 gallon tank and debating between the 8-way with 1.5 inch pipe to the unit then 1 inch pipe to the outlets, or the HD 4-way with 1.5 inch to the unit and 1.5 inch part way to the outlets, then splitting to 1 inch. Pump will be a 4300SEQ12.

Like the rest of you I want lots of flow, but gentle, so I don't blow everything away.

So what are your thoughts? I have been talking to Paul, but I'd also like to hear what you all think.

Mickey
 
ok, i'm an idiot. i figured the closed loop head loss as i would for a pump from the sump :D oops :D so w/ the corrected .5ft of vertical height i would get

596gph from the blueline 30x 298/outlet
888gph from teh iwaki 55rlt 444/outlet

hmm, so i STILL think i am gonna run the iwaki for now...better MORE than not enough and i might stick the blueline on a constant on closed loop to REALLY get some flow going :D

Lunchbucket
 
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