Next 3 Days

alterity

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Ok, so basically in the next three days I've deicded to either find a tank for sale from someone 128g min 155g preferred, rr or go buy and start my own one. I've got the money to do it right now and am ready to go....

So what I need to know is:

A)Does someone have a setup they want to sell to me, that's ready to go with all the equipment I need.
B)When I go to the store to buy a tank, what should I buy all with it and is Marine Solutions ok to get it at or is there somewhere with better pricing?
C)What should I do differently than my 29g tank so that after 4 months I can put fish into it without them dying after four days?
 
I would make the trip to TWP on watson see what they have in tanks, they seem to have the most tanks in the area.
 
Answering question B buying it for marine solutions is a good idea. esspeally if ur starting a how new setup from stach they will give u pretty good prices and a lot of the times match other ppls prices. ive had nothing but good expreinse for those guys.
 
I'm probably going to MS tonight to see what they have. I know Beldts had a 155g rr for $600 with stand. I just don't know, I got very flustered by the fact that I can't get my Nano to have anything survive except inverts. I'm hoping starting fresh will be better, better yet I'd rather pick up someone's currently running tank.
 
I was just at TWP and they are having a sale on aquariums, I guess they didnt sell all the tanks they brought in for the consignment sale. I'd give them a call and see if they have what you are looking for, cant hurt.
 
I would seriously try getting a handle on the nano befor ea big upgrade and a large investment. Take it slow and easy. You should at least be able to get a clownfish to live in the nano.
 
That's the opposite of what people have told me, everyone says go big. Which is what I wanted to do first. I'm used to a 128g fresh water. I think one of three things happened with the nano, 1)I used not filtered enough water and I need to put new water in(although I've done water changes and this didn't help) 2) something in the system that is weird, there is constant brown algae build up on the glass and on the sand and this is actually something very bad for the fish but I don't know what it is Ive tried quite a few things and it always comes back I don't know if there is something in the BioBalls or in the filter or in the pump 3)the damsels got ick, the ick is gone, but the clown got snipped by the crab and got stressed and got something and died. I don't know, I'm sure I need more LR, but if I buy any more I'm going to buy some for the big tank. If I'm going to screw up, I'd rather screw up on the big tank. I just want this to be enjoyable and things dying isn't enjoyable, whereas I think if I get the big tank and start from scratch I can do everything right that I learned on the small tank and not be stuck witht he small tank's water or other problems.
 
Water parameters stay much more stable in a larger tank so that makes large tanks a bit more forgiving.

If you've got the money to spend .... go big.
 
1)I used not filtered enough water and I need to put new water in(although I've done water changes and this didn't help)

What kind of water are you using. Buy a good ro/di (accept nothing more that 1-2 tds)now and use it on the 29, you will need one for a big tank anyway. Give it a try and work with it now before you need 100+gallons a month (if your wondering what tds is we have found a problem already)

2) something in the system that is weird, there is constant brown algae build up on the glass and on the sand and this is actually something very bad for the fish but I don't know what it is Ive tried quite a few things and it always comes back I don't know if there is something in the BioBalls or in the filter or in the pump

First, refer to answer #1.
Second, ditch the bioballs
Third, what kind of filter do you have?
Fourth, Buy a skimmer, get the one you would want for a large tank and learn to use it and make the modification it will need. Practice.
Fifth, If you don't have the discipline to clean pumps and such now on a 29 what will you do when you have 4-6 pumps to clean on a monthly basis in a 100 gallon + tank?

3)the damsels got ick, the ick is gone, but the clown got snipped by the crab and got stressed and got something and died. I don't know, I'm sure I need more LR, but if I buy any more I'm going to buy some for the big tank. If I'm going to screw up, I'd rather screw up on the big tank.

Learn to Quarantine fish now. In a large tank you will waste a lot of money on killing fish by not doing things the proper way.

Did you let enough time pass between the damsels getting ick and you throwing some more fish in the tank, ick has a life span too.

Buy more live rock and throw it in a sump or in the tank, like you said it will be useful in the future when you upgrade

You don't wanna screw up small. Why would you want to screw up big. You need to do some research I think and find out some of the mistakes your making now before you drop some serious money and regret it later with simple silly mistakes.

I hope if you do upgrade it goes better for you but think about the amount of time you put in on a small tank and then think about how much time and moeny will go into a large tank. Do you want a mistake then? I know I would not.


On a side note, why isn't anyone else trying to help him solve his problems. I am a firm believer in Leightons slogan of "Go big or go home" attitude but you have to know what your doing before you genocide a whole tank of livestock. alterity I am not saying you will fail but your posts point out problems you know you have and you aren't fixing them now, why would it change when you get a larger tank?

You want it to be enjoyable I suggest research and asking a lot of questions.
 
Levon15, Maybe his issues are because of the nano. Most nano's don't have a skimmer, and Bio-balls don't do anything for that. I wouldn't own a tank under 55g unless it was a seahorse tank and then it would run a skimmer 3 times needed. Capo siad it best when he said "big tank are more forgiving" and they allow more TIME to figure out and then correct problems than a Nano. My first SW tank sat in my living room for 1 year with no water, cause I took Lonnies advise and bought the biggest tank I could afford. And a 90g was massive to me at that time, my 55g FW was huge to me, But I'm glad I took heed of his advise. JMO
 
Small tanks aren't that difficult. They start out difficult only. If you put yourself on a schedule and keep your eyes open then you'd be fine. After a year it's stable and you'll have no problems. I think my 30 gallon hit about nine months old and I almost stopped doing water changes. I KNOW that I only did 2 water changes from June to January. :lol: And it did just fine and dandy.
 
No matter what anyone says a larger tank will ALWAYS be more stable than a smaller tank.

That is a given!

It has always been recommended that newbies start with a larger tank vs. a smaller tank. As far as I'm aware, that has not changed.
 
Guys I'm telling you I've tested EVERYTHING, I've tried this and that, I'm pretty sure I've spent over $100 on testing liquids! I use marine buffer, all the nitro levels are at the lowest possible reading levels. Everythign looks good! I think I just had bad luck. I've learned a lot from you guys. I went to MS and bought a clown and some more LR we'll see what happens in the next couple days. In the mean time I'm still looking for a large tank with a stand that is rr with sump etc. Let me know.

BTW, I keep a pretty good eye on things, so it's not a matter of not taking care of things, I really after thinking and talkign to the guy at MS think i just had bad luck.
 
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